Bolded sounds like something a Sandy Hook Apologist would say.

Underlined: Who is these others that you speak of? S.B. Pls say No.

You went as far as saying that R.H. did not do this because he said so. Also sounds like a Conspiritard.

Can you also confirm that R.H. & S.B. were not involved in criminal activities before T.H. was Murdered, cos imo they were small time drug pushers/users.

I posted 2 options 1 that I knew was right & 1 wrong.

Guess what the #don'taskquestions decided to take on?

I forgot to say that if you think R.H. is getting it bad now just wait till K.Z. investigator admits his phone records in the appeal/trial, with cell phone data.

If he is not on medication the now he's gonna need some.

I'm not saying in general that police shouldn't investigate romantic partners of missing persons or murder victims. I'm saying that in this specific case the police had more pressing issues given the way the investigation progressed.

Also, just to repeat, I don't know how you claim to know that the police didn't look up any of Halbach's exes. It's very possible they would have done background checks and asked the victim's family about her relationships. Maybe they did this and didn't find any red flags worth following up.

Or maybe not. Who cares? As the investigation progressed, the evidence led straight to Steven Avery, so there was no reason to look elsewhere.

I feel pretty confident saying those events happened, in terms of her saying he did this to her. I am not confident enough to say those docs I posted are of her actual confession. They seemed semi interesting enough to post here though.

KK should have been prosecuted too then.

No it doesnt. Wtf are you talking about?

There are several people that have been harassed and had their lives threatened. RH, TH brother, Lenk, Colborn, The entire sheriffs office,

That isn't what I said, I pointed out the source where this claim came from. The source is buting asking him if he accessed her voicemail. The source does not even claim what you are claiming. It only asked. I can say with confidence that your conclusion he accessed her voice mail is unjustified. Since it is unjustified I can dismiss it as wrong even if it turns out later that evidence came up he did check her voicemail. I am still right to reject the claim he did and you are wrong to accept the claim he did.


Lol ok? Don't really care. Even if that were true its not really relevant... Small town drug dealers= murder and burn their friend/sisters body? as opposed to someone with a wrap sheet of disturbing convictions and claims of disturbing behavior doing the crime. Unreal. can't believe you are defending avery and making claims like this against RH and TH brother.

Lol, ya.. Just keep posting your threats. He certainly deserves it right? I mean, his friend died so **** him and all.

It doesn't matter. It was the ex-bf. Or the brother. Or the cops, or zipperer, or someone in zipperer's family, or that old serial killer dude.

Anyone but the guy with her car on his lot and his blood in her car and her charred remains in his yard.

Underlined: Guess What? We have freedom of information documents from SkippTopp on Reddit wrt other people investigated. From both Calumet & Mantiowoc.

Bold: Possible? Yes I suppose. But again pls read up on this case Ikasigh. Clue, T.H. background was never made public & if they did investigate her history then that has been kept from the public.

Italic: Source pls? These doc's you say are not public information if they exist at all.

I did not & have not implied that M.H was a small time criminal EVER, period.
And you are again wrong on being a Drug dealer not being relevant, imo & the FBI'S & AFT, Local police & state police.

Ohh here we go More Lie's, FACT: it was not SA property. And the charred remains imo are still to be verified by a degree of scientific certainty, 7/16 markers is not a valid test.

The Blood will be re-examined by a professional. We anticipate that these results will prove S.A. was not in the Rav4.

There was a theory floating around that it was a cow.. Not ****ing kidding. I imagine it was some kind of poe but I am having doubts..

Um ok? MH was a small time criminal. Do you think SA was pursued soley because of his large disturbing history involving harming people? No, I think not. I think it had something to do with her being on his property 30 mins before she falls off the face of the earth. Sure his history probably played a part in it but that wasn't the only factor.

Oh nvm, Mh wasn't a criminal. I am confused what you are saying now. You are saying that TH ex was a drug dealer? or are you just asking random questions about him like we ****ing know?

Petty games, spelling mistakes, misquote's & ism's, all in a day's work in the MaM threads.
I admire the posters who refused to get involved in these childish games, unlike myself, my bad. Sorry 2+2, I need a break.

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#Notguilty

An ex-boyfriend of a homicide victim that visits her house the day before at an undisclosed time with an undisclosed package is much more like to be involved with her murder or disappearance. Anywhere City, USA.

Agree there are always limited resources. Eliminating other suspects is part of an investigation. It removes significant doubt.

Well I don't know who SB is and based on context I thought you were referring to her brother because I forgot his name. My bad, I am still confused by your point. WTF are you trying to imply here? Are you implying they sold drugs? Can you tell me why this is relevant? Just sounds like a weird smear campaign...

I don't agree they will ALWAYS be a suspect and I don't think he should have been a suspect here at that time either. I could see if her brother and others close to her were casting doubt on him and telling police they were concerned. I could see if he wasn't trying to recover information for police such as her phone records. Surely if he killed her her phone records would be incriminating to him?

There was just too many things pointing away from him being responsible for her disappearing that I don't think there was much point in investigating him at the moment. I think all of their efforts should have been where she was last seen. The salvage yard and zipplers. Which is what they did.

Also, lets say they investigate one of the leaders of her search party. Do you think that is a -ev move by police? Think about it. It does more harm than good in the off chance he followed her to avery's, killed her or kidnapped her, without making any phone calls that added suspicion to him, then decided to be one of the first to attempt to find her and gather information for police.

That is the first great question you have asked.

Challenging. Murderers sometimes go back to the scene of the crime. Investigators know this and will sometimes conduct a surveillance operation. It is a calculated gamble and assessed on a case by case basis.

Now answer me this question(s). Why was an ex-boyfriend allowed to log-in at the crime scene and do you think in anyway that was +ev move?

He isn't related to the victim or in a current relationship. He isn't a law enforcement officer or investigator.

Why would police need his assistance to recover her phone records? They should have to gone to the phone carrier with a warrant and handled it through official channels. It happens all the time. The police do not require a 3rd-party intermediary.

24-hours after she went missing, there was the extremely high-likelihood of foul play. The highest likely suspect is an ex-boyfriend. Once again, to repeat, in any case. This isn't personal against RH in any fashion.

Sorry to all the ex-boyfriends of the world -- if your ex-girlfriend is murdered, you will be considered a suspect. Be prepared to have an alibi. It sucks, but you can blame it on all the psycho ex-bfs that have killed their ex's.

Has there ever been a double-suspect/single murder victim in Manitowoc County history? Considering how rare homicide is in that area, the investigatory experience must have been very limited in a area like this. They were trying to figure it out on the fly and there were an extraordinary number of LEO people deployed to the area. Everyone knew this was a historical case and wanted to be part of the action.

I presume some of them may regret that today. They may not deserve medals and awards, but they certainly don't deserve death threats.

And it easy to examine everything in hindsight with thousands of people seeking clues in every document. The prosecution or defense did not have the luxury of unlimited time and resources. They both had their own pressures to produce results. And many LEOs were just following orders. That is what they do. You don't want them questioning every single command.

I honestly don't know the extent in which he "had access to the crime scene". That seems to be in dispute and we don't have a lot of information. In hindsight if he was allowed near where avery actually lived it may have not been the best move by police. But I can understand why at that point he was pretty much ruled out as a suspect.

After the car was found. It was pretty much going to be avery as the killer something like 90% of the time and the rest of the family splitting the other 10% imo.

It isn't that they needed him. That isn't why it brought it up. I was just putting things into perspective. This is not the mindset of a killer imo. To help, to actually try to find her.

Serious question golfnut, do you think he should be considered a suspect now? Do you think people should be pointing fingers at RH as if he should be considered for this murder in anyway?

You still don't understand the reason why people are pointing fingers now and what the core issue was 10 years ago and still is right now. And since you don't understand it you keep looking at the problem in a wrong way and missing you any point made itt.

The DA and police made a really bad job 10 years ago which results in people frustration now that they have been exposed to details they usually aren't exposed to and it create a breach of confidence in the system. So people have questions and they want answer yes it's unfair for people to be suspected of a 10 year old murder.
The reason why it happens now is that the police made a bad conviction case and didn't clear loose ends 10 years ago. They forced a single theory at any cost ignoring possible leads contaminating crime scene ****ing up importants processes and possibly making up evidences and coercing confessions.
All that non sense generate a distrust in their conclusion and a ****load of suspicion.
But since 3 months you are thinking they caught a murderer and nothing else matter while ignoring the whole process because you are result oriented.