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02-13-2016 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
5ive,

He was clearly telling his mom why this happened and why he did what SA said.

So you are arguing, actually arguing, that he is trying to tell his mom he did what SA said because they would fake wrestle? Like, I am legit getting upset at you because you are the kind of person that wouldn't take this kind of thing seriously if a child came to you about it.. Shame on you dude.
Ad Hominy Grits ITT.

Also elephants. All up in the room, coming in the windows.

You actually just typed that I would not take seriously the claims of a child/minor coming to me and saying an adult took advantage of them, when this entire facet of this case, this subargument about BD, concerns adults (LEOs) taking advantage of a child/minor (BD) and you not taking it seriously.

Color me amazed.

And before I just resort to posting pics of Drizin giving a withering look of disdain, here:

http://www.thewrap.com/making-a-murd...m-transcripts/

I can't copy and paste but this is still ridiculous because I KNOW this is where you got your info from. Fassbender goes on for multiple pages asking about sexual things, BD gives a no across the board until it finally settles on this:

Brendan: While it was like wrestling and-

And here, to give you insight into the mind of these people, Fassbender actually cuts him off after all the nonsense about wanting him to open up and talk:

Fassbender: Oh. And he grabbed you down there? And that's all he's ever done?

Brendan: Yeah.


Through the transcripts you can feel the disappointment dripping off that "Oh." They don't want the kid to open up and tell the truth, they ant him to say what they want.
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02-13-2016 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
You've asked this a few times and I still have no idea what you are getting at.
Oh.
Why was AC a customer of the Avery's when the under sheriff also has a scrap yard?
Guess when it was 1st recorded that Colborn was a customer?
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02-13-2016 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
How about the fact that BD and a female relative of SA claims he molested them? Do you think that at all played into the tragic events of 10-31-2005?
Link?
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02-13-2016 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
Given context, ya you're right. Its clear he wasn't talking about anything sexual..

Context, I am talking about the context... JFC.. lol
Why are you doing this to yourself? I mean, even font color changing and that.*

It was such low hanging fruit** I didn't even bother really going hard in the paint that YOU were taking all of that out of context.


*I'm totally gonna start mixing in "and that" with my everyday lexicon

**At some point you can't call it "low hanging" anymore if it's sitting in the dirt. I wonder if root vegetables would qualify as low hanging fruit.
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02-13-2016 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
photos of the bones in the burn pit.. Is that what you are asking for?
Yes.
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02-13-2016 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
False
Ok I'm tagging in LITS for a few ticks.

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02-13-2016 , 10:14 PM
Kathleen Zellner @Zellner Law

28YRS: SA wrongfully convicted of other crimes/crimes that never happened. Poor + disabled=disposable.

5ive?
Can you help explain to me & the thread more on KZ tactic's by also filing a Civil Lawsuit Along with the appeal?
In the context of why it will give the jury of a re-trial more time to understand the scientific evidence?
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02-13-2016 , 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
FYP
False.

Fixed your stated reasons for being in this thread.
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02-13-2016 , 10:30 PM
02-13-2016 , 10:32 PM
Fraleyight - Do you have any interest in making sure that anyone in Wisconsin that was a part if this investigation receives immunity or otherwise goes unpunished when Zellner's case gets SA released?
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02-13-2016 , 10:33 PM
Brendan definitely admitted to his mother on the phone that SA had inappropriately touched him. The degree to which is arguable though.
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02-13-2016 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
Fraleyight - Do you have any interest in making sure that anyone in Wisconsin that was a part if this investigation receives immunity or otherwise goes unpunished when Zellner's case gets SA released?
What do you think are the chances SA gets released within a reasonable amount of time - say, 2 years - based on Zellner's efforts?
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02-13-2016 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
Took a bit longer than I initially projected, but there it is.
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02-13-2016 , 10:48 PM
Answer me
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02-13-2016 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by AngerPush
Brendan definitely admitted to his mother on the phone that SA had inappropriately touched him. The degree to which is arguable though.
http://i.imgur.com/G7kSGBv.png

There you go.
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02-14-2016 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
LOL. Saw this a while ago but thought Id let them continue to spew extremely old info that has already been discussed at length.

Seriously, are you really bringing up this molestation stuff now (again)?
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02-14-2016 , 12:35 AM
Allows BD to justify false confession

Lol ok
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02-14-2016 , 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by PoorSkillz
All I see is a shining example of the effects an emotionally manipulative and deceptive documentary can have on people.


"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."

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02-14-2016 , 03:25 AM
I admittedly don't remember that part of the interview. Fair enough, what about what he says he saw with "jessica's sister"
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02-14-2016 , 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by AngerPush
What do you think are the chances SA gets released within a reasonable amount of time - say, 2 years - based on Zellner's efforts?
Also this..
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02-14-2016 , 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
Fraleyight - Do you have any interest in making sure that anyone in Wisconsin that was a part if this investigation receives immunity or otherwise goes unpunished when Zellner's case gets SA released?
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02-14-2016 , 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
Also this..
I doubt anyone can know that without having détails of the appeal. It took one year to do the test that free him in 2003
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02-14-2016 , 01:44 PM
Some of you are in for a rude awakening about how long appeals can take. Especially in the federal court system. It can take years depending on the path taken.

Heck, I'd imagine that if Zellner had exculpatory evidence in her hands right now, that truly exonerated him, and the state did not cooperate, it would take every bit of a year, and probably significantly longer, to get through on a habeas corpus motion.

And one must be very careful about the path taken and options pursued. Some are one shot deals. Meaning, if you lose, it's over.
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02-14-2016 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 5ive
Ad Hominy Grits ITT.

Also elephants. All up in the room, coming in the windows.

You actually just typed that I would not take seriously the claims of a child/minor coming to me and saying an adult took advantage of them, when this entire facet of this case, this subargument about BD, concerns adults (LEOs) taking advantage of a child/minor (BD) and you not taking it seriously.

Color me amazed.

And before I just resort to posting pics of Drizin giving a withering look of disdain, here:

http://www.thewrap.com/making-a-murd...m-transcripts/

I can't copy and paste but this is still ridiculous because I KNOW this is where you got your info from. Fassbender goes on for multiple pages asking about sexual things, BD gives a no across the board until it finally settles on this:

Brendan: While it was like wrestling and-

And here, to give you insight into the mind of these people, Fassbender actually cuts him off after all the nonsense about wanting him to open up and talk:

Fassbender: Oh. And he grabbed you down there? And that's all he's ever done?

Brendan: Yeah.


Through the transcripts you can feel the disappointment dripping off that "Oh." They don't want the kid to open up and tell the truth, they ant him to say what they want.
This is a very well written post that sums up my sentiment towards the "SA = guilty" advocates applying false logic, irrelevant and fabricated circumstantial evidence to exact a character degradation to justify the fact an innocent man was put in jail for almost his entire adult life.

Then to compound the atrocity, the "witness" in question that is the alleged victim of the accused ("molestation" in this case) has also been thrown in jail for his entire adult life for a totally unrelated offense that he ALSO did not commit. The tragedy is unbearable if you can really comprehend what has happened here.

As I've stated before, I don't blame the SA = guilty camp for their great stretches of imagination to reach the "he must be guilty" verdict. The alternative is a massive injustice executed with the highest evil purposes possible. Its something that should never, ever be allowed to occur. I can understand a human attribute of being unable to accept that this degree of evil exists. To really accept the fact that this can and does happen should incite a responsibility that some may be unable to handle. To REALLY accept that this can happen to YOU should incite something worse, fear.
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02-14-2016 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AngerPush
Answer me
Lol, you still haven't answered me from days ago.
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