Which of that information did the police not already know? We know his confession was coerced and leading to get him to say things to match with what they already knew.

Please point to the areas where Dassey mentioned things in his confession the police did not know about but then was later confirmed with evidence AFTER the fact. Pointing to all the things the interrogators set out to have him say does not really help your position. Having someone confess to an extensive murder and not tell the police a single thing, that could be corroborated, they didn't already know is pretty much unheard of. In fact that is one of the ways police with integrity can weed out false confessions. Of course if your goal is to get a confession to match the evidence you already have, as it did here, you wouldn't be interested in the integrity of weeding out any false confessions.

I have already laid this out.

But to summarize on whats important in his confession..

He was lying about having a bonfire when questioned about it in November. Now his narrative where he claims he is innocent has a bon fire, his mom says he was at a bon fire. Why did he lie about this in november?

He was given false truths to see if he would go along with them. I gave an example of this itt where police asked if he remembered the tattoo on her stomach (there is no tattoo on TH stomach) this is important because they are asking him as if they already know she has a tattoo on her stomach. if he was being coerced he would just say "ya" or "yes I remember that tattoo" but he said that he didn't remember a tattoo.

He described in lucid detail why TH was in the back of the rav4. Something that would be hard to make up.

He knew she was shot in the head multiple times, he knew what side of her head was shot

at the time, police did not know where she was shot, he told them the garage, then they corroborated that by finding the bullet in the garage with her dna on it

He said that SA shot her with the rifle above his bed, the bullet with her dna on it was matched to that gun above his bed by MR newhouse the ballistics expert

They found a section of 3by3 was bleached clean, BD had pants with bleach stains on it that he said he were while helping SA clean the garage, police didn't know any of this before questioning him

Thats just a few things.. Some of which are corroborated after the fact IE: the bullet, bleach in the garage. Some of which he shouldn't have known, how many times in the head she was shot, the side of the head that was shot..

You keep saying she was shot twice. I find it highly unlikely that can be confirmed with any certainty.

Come on now. I think it's perfectly fine to think that SA is guilty, but to suggest that the notion that the police planted evidence in this particular case is "just random speculation" and has "nothing to back" it up is silly.

I think the best anyone who thinks SA is guilty can claim is that there are certainly some significant questions regarding evidence collection, but they are outweighed by everything else that points to SA's guilt. While I don't agree with that position, I can understand and respect it.

She was shot at least twice in the head it is impossible to determine if there were more shots. BD said she was shot 3 times. Either way, the default answer is generally going to be 1.

So any answer greater than 1 proves he did it. Come on bro.

I just listed several reasons why he did it. I didn't list one. It is a collection of things. I feel like the odds that are these things come together in that way and him being innocent are astronomical. And certainly not reasonable to doubt he did it.

Again,

He had to guess that he shot her more than once

He had to guess which side of her head was shot

he had to guess which gun was used

He had to guess where she was shot

just to name a few.

You didn't list one thing where information originating from BD was confirmed by existing evidence.

I see this thread is still a dumpster fire.


Any talk in here of George Zipperer allegedly destroying the attached garage on his house very recently?

I already told you to cut yourself, create a blood pool that size and then clean it up with whatever is handy. I am still waiting for your report.

I really don't think you have a grasp on blood and its physical characteristics.

lol ok dude. Whatever you say.

Definitely not a good time to be tearing down your garage if you're SA's neighbor and one of the prime suspects. Why not just clean it?

I looked a bit on reddit and that was not confirmed , some people said it was still up.
still funny annecdote if true

Did you accept that the Mod was correct to ban yourself beyond a reasonable doubt?

Waiting on Photo's evidence from the P.I. on Reddit.

http://imgur.com/a/1oUT1

Yes, I broke the rules. So be it.

The Rav4 fingerprints...
http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-co...-Recovered.pdf

In police interview Martinez said that if the avery family blamed him for killing TH then he would take the blame for it..

I have not read this link myself so don't kno if its in here....
http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-co...onsibility.pdf

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/...2796348860.jpg

Personally I don't have a opinion on this martinez guy having done it. But the day after he was arrested the Magic Key was found & it seems he was prone to blackout's.

Found this article on Flawed forensic's..... I t's not for fraley as he does not need forensic's to convict.

http://www.wisbar.org/NewsPublicatio...rticleID=24435

I wish you guys would just come to terms with reality and admit this thread is pretty much balls without me.

Maybe, maybe not... but it's AIDS with you. And that's beyond a reasonable doubt.

i may even go as far to say beyond a shadow of a doubt

So BD and SA get her into the trailer, cuff/rope her ankles and wrists to the bed, rape, stab, slit throat THEN strangle, watch TV and drink sodas, carry her to garage and throw her in the back of the car, take her out of the car shoot her between 2 and 11 times (at least twice in the head) carry to a burn pit 20 feet in front of SA's house, burn the body to the point of the bones crumbling to fragments.

During this time, SA makes 2 phone calls to his fiancee and doesn't sound the least bit rushed, panicked or worried about anything. Here's a guy regularly having sex, on the cusp of a huge financial windfall and is about to get married to a relatively decent looking woman (if you're an Avery).

Investigators don't find one shred of DNA evidence (outside of the SUV) for Teresa for 5
months until a single bullet fragment is found and supposedly has so little DNA on it (confirmed by the naked eye of Sherry Culhane) that only one test will be able to be performed and it's contaminated.

Additionally, not one shred of BD's DNA is found anywhere at anytime, ever.

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