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01-29-2016 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
Dateline will talk about SA tonight

http://www.nbcnews.com/dateline
Ms Zellner keeping them in check?
http://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/maki...ne-nbc-n506221
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01-29-2016 , 08:00 PM
LOL Black Batman
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01-29-2016 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DisGunBGud
LOL Black Batman
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01-29-2016 , 08:26 PM
SA's Note.
http://imgur.com/a/RxM4S
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01-29-2016 , 08:43 PM
Joseph Paulua, Unrelated to MaM.

http://truthinjustice.org/paulus-cheat.htm
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01-29-2016 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
If only they had the key earlier they could tell whose DNA, aside from TH's, that steven averycleaned off of it.
fyp
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01-29-2016 , 08:47 PM
Dateline MAM special on in 2 hrs guys. Zellner and Kratz are both going to be interviewed.
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01-29-2016 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight

"did you see the tatoo on her stomach" (TH does not have a tatoo on her stomach)
Please provide a source
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01-29-2016 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
fyp
great plan, clean off her DNA and leave your own.

another weird thing, SA sweat dna on hood latch....but his finger prints weren't--guy is a magician.
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01-29-2016 , 09:01 PM
capone0......Look below. lol

http://wraptrade.com/image/data/term...1/SMT-1100.png
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01-29-2016 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
Please provide a source
Its in one of the detectives testimony's and I believe in the march 1st confession. He talks about it during BD's trial though.
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01-29-2016 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by capone0
great plan, clean off her DNA and leave your own.

another weird thing, SA sweat dna on hood latch....but his finger prints weren't--guy is a magician.
WTF? So you think it is impossible for someone to sweat on something or talk over it without touching it?
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01-29-2016 , 09:21 PM
he lifted the hood latch right to take out the battery? That's the story we've been told so yes I think it's impossible. So he lifted the latch with gloves but for some reason decided to leave his DNA with his breath? Or use the side of his arm on the latch for what reason--'let's be very careful and wear gloves but let's either breath or sweat all over the latch? Do you think I'm ******ed? Again, the logistics of what SA is doing are insane to match the story of how things happen. He's both insanely careful and insanely careless. It's very weird.
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01-29-2016 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
"did you see the tatoo on her stomach" (TH does not have a tatoo on her stomach)

If branden was just going along with what he thought they wanted him to say he would have just said "yes" but he said "no"
That's not what Fassbender asked. This is what was said:

Fassbender: OK. (pause) We know that Teresa had a tattoo on her stomach, do you remember that?
Brendan: (shakes head “no”) uh uh
Fassbender: Do you disagree with me when I say that?
Brendan: No but I don’t know where it is?

Brendan says "no" to "Do you disagree with me", meaning he is agreeing with Fassbender that Teresa had a tattoo.

If you're going to use quotes, please don't change the meaning of the sentence/question.
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01-29-2016 , 09:58 PM
I've no idea who benefits from sending astroturfers to a thread like this but there's no doubt that's what's going on here.
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01-29-2016 , 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
I've no idea who benefits from sending astroturfers to a thread like this but there's no doubt that's what's going on here.
http://i.imgur.com/qA5xjhT.jpg

I got to admit, after seeing this I am now worried, because all I.ve searched for in the last week has been-How to clean DNA, Does a bullet match a gun, How to jump start a toyota & snowdon says that this will put me on a list.
http://i.imgur.com/RgdNbhv.jpg

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01-29-2016 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Bank
That's not what Fassbender asked. This is what was said:

Fassbender: OK. (pause) We know that Teresa had a tattoo on her stomach, do you remember that?
Brendan: (shakes head “no”) uh uh
Fassbender: Do you disagree with me when I say that?
Brendan: No but I don’t know where it is?

Brendan says "no" to "Do you disagree with me", meaning he is agreeing with Fassbender that Teresa had a tattoo.

If you're going to use quotes, please don't change the meaning of the sentence/question.

How does that change the meaning of what I was paraphrasing at all? They intentionally fed him false information to see if he would comply. He didn't comply with the false information. That was my point, does that point still stand? Oh it does? oh ok, cool. Stfu then.
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01-29-2016 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by capone0
he lifted the hood latch right to take out the battery? That's the story we've been told so yes I think it's impossible. So he lifted the latch with gloves but for some reason decided to leave his DNA with his breath? Or use the side of his arm on the latch for what reason--'let's be very careful and wear gloves but let's either breath or sweat all over the latch? Do you think I'm ******ed? Again, the logistics of what SA is doing are insane to match the story of how things happen. He's both insanely careful and insanely careless. It's very weird.
There are several ways this could happen. Rather than speculate on how, which we don't know exactly, you should just understand that somehow his dna got in those places. This usually only happens 1 way, the suggestion that police planted all this evidence in such a sloppy matter that would still leave questions is even more silly than imagining a killer with a low iq would leave evidence in a sloppy manner.
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01-29-2016 , 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
He didn't comply with the false information. That was my point, does that point still stand? Oh it does? oh ok, cool. Stfu then.


When Fassbender asked him "Do you disagree with me" (about Teresa having a tattoo), Dassey said "No". How is that not complying with the false information? He just said he agreed with Fassbender about Teresa having a tattoo, which is false.

Also, cool it with the "stfu". There's no need for that.
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01-29-2016 , 10:44 PM
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01-29-2016 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bank
When Fassbender asked him "Do you disagree with me" (about Teresa having a tattoo), Dassey said "No". How is that not complying with the false information? He just said he agreed with Fassbender about Teresa having a tattoo, which is false.

Also, cool it with the "stfu". There's no need for that.
There was false information fed to him..

This was the information

TH had a tatoo on her stomach

He did not comply with this information. This suggests that he was not just going along with everything they said but was thinking independently.

Also, everyone comes in here to make one post suggesting something or saying something about me. It gets annoying. I apologize for telling you to stfu.
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01-29-2016 , 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
There was false information fed to him..

This was the information

TH had a tatoo on her stomach

He did not comply with this information. This suggests that he was not just going along with everything they said but was thinking independently.

Also, everyone comes in here to make one post suggesting something or saying something about me. It gets annoying. I apologize for telling you to stfu.
If he was not complying with false information, when asked if he disagreed with Fassbender, why didn't he say "Yes I disagree. She does not have a tattoo on her stomach"?
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01-29-2016 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bank
If he was not complying with false information, when asked if he disagreed with Fassbender, why didn't he say "Yes I disagree. She does not have a tattoo on her stomach"?
If he was just complying with them he would say she did have a tattoo when asked if he remembered her tattoo. He said he didn't remember a tattoo. How does this suggest anything but him thinking independently?
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01-29-2016 , 10:58 PM
Fassbender: OK. (pause) We know that Teresa had a tattoo on her stomach, do you remember that?
Brendan: (shakes head “no”) uh uh


^ this is not someone being coerced. This is someone actually recalling events independently.
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01-29-2016 , 11:34 PM
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this is not someone being coerced. This is someone actually recalling events independently.
I find it absurd that a person can & will convict some1 when there is NO evidence to support the confession. Would you not agree Fraley?
http://courses2.cit.cornell.edu/soci...nfessions.html
http://www.nij.gov/topics/courts/ind...nts/drizin.pdf
http://courses2.cit.cornell.edu/soci...nfessions.html

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