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I think the Colburn license plate drama was overplayed. It is certainly possible that they got her license plate from a family member, and he was simply calling in to verify the number was correct and that the car was in fact registered to Teresa Halbach.

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You do realize that Colborn's testimony, his reactions, and even the phone call were edited, right?

Since you're read his full testimony, why not enlighten us on his explanation for this?

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Says you, that is in dispute. You do realize the only reason that is thought to be the case is because the sketch of avery looks similar to his mug shot? Could this sketch also not look similar to the witnesses description of him since he looked a lot like the actual rapist?

Steven Avery is 5'4" and she described her attacker as being 5'10"。 Sure I'll give her a little leeway, but being off by 6 inches is looking a lot like someone?

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Who said SA was framed? He was clearly pegged by the cops and they didn't do dudiligence, additionally, Steven Avery was planted in the witnesses mind by people working in the office. The cops ignored additional suspects including one that made a ton of sense. Additionally, the sheriff didn't push the new evidence when colburn was called in 1995 or whatever when the sheriff claimed they had their man. It's also funny that they filled out said report a day after SA was released.

Specifically in one of their first interviews while she was still in the hospital a deputy who was friends with the woman SA threatened told the victim that he description sounded like Steven Avery. Poisoning the well.

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01-24-2016 , 07:49 PM

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Nevermind, found it. And it's a doozy. What a nice guy, offered to write a book for him. He really is a prize.

OMFG.

What would you do if you were a prosecutor and had zero doubt that he was guilty?

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01-24-2016 , 07:52 PM

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Since you're read his full testimony, why not enlighten us on his explanation for this?

Steven Avery is 5'4" and she described her attacker as being 5'10"。 Sure I'll give her a little leeway, but being off by 6 inches is looking a lot like someone?

Specifically in one of their first interviews while she was still in the hospital a deputy who was friends with the woman SA threatened told the victim that he description sounded like Steven Avery. Poisoning the well.

What they did fits both both the literal and figurative meanings of "frame" as well as the definition as pertains to criminal investigations.

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01-24-2016 , 07:53 PM

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Nevermind, found it. And it's a doozy. What a nice guy, offered to write a book for him. He really is a prize.

OMFG.

Lol I gotta say, regardless of one's feelings about Avery's guilt, this Kratz guy is just an amazingly slimy individual. Those texts he sent to the domestic violence victim, jfc.

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01-24-2016 , 07:57 PM

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It's really not that hard to follow. Someone wrote that it wouldn't actually be an illegal search. Ok? And we are 100% sure Colburn would know that? They could be paranoid about a good search being tossed out so they find other ways to bring in the evidence.

So, in this hypothetical, you agree that Colburn is a terrible cop and capable of playing fast and loose with evidence.

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01-24-2016 , 08:02 PM

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Kratz is a scumbag for sure.

Defending the sketch artist is so incredibly dumb. The sketch not only looks more like SA than Gregory Allen, it looks like SA's old mugshot, not like what he looked like at the time of the rape.

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01-24-2016 , 08:03 PM

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Kratz is a slimeball. What DA isn't though? They are all sketchy.

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01-24-2016 , 08:12 PM

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Steven Avery is 5'4" and she described her attacker as being 5'10"。 Sure I'll give her a little leeway, but being off by 6 inches is looking a lot like someone?

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Avery is 5'11"

http://offender.doc.state.wi.us/lop/searchbasic.do

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01-24-2016 , 08:13 PM

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According to the WI DOJ website anyway.

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01-24-2016 , 08:14 PM

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looks like him to me..

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01-24-2016 , 08:19 PM

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Even though his testimony sound ridiculous, I'll let it get through the BS detector to make a point. The motion to suppress evidence filing states:

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Lt. Lenk, Sgt. Colborn, and Deputy Kucharski of the Calumet County Sheriff’s
Department entered the defendant’s trailer on November 8, 2005. They remained in the
trailer from 8:25 am. through 12:08 pm. As the court understands the testimony, they
entered the trailer for the purpose of seizing the defendant’s computer pursuant to a
separate search warrant that had been obtained. In addition to seizing the computer under the new search warrant, they also took swabs of some blood spots the crime lab had found in the bathroom.

So wtf did the bookcase have to do with anything?

Also,

Not exactly twisted, shaken, or pulled, is it?

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01-24-2016 , 08:21 PM

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Avery is 5'11"

And a psychopathic murderer

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01-24-2016 , 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fraleyight

Avery is 5'11"

http://offender.doc.state.wi.us/lop/searchbasic.do

"Yeah, I've seen the documentary" he says.

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01-24-2016 , 08:38 PM

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He's 5'6"

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01-24-2016 , 08:41 PM

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He's 5'6"

Wonder why Wis. records would state he is 5'11"?

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01-24-2016 , 08:44 PM

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Wonder why Wis. records would state he is 5'11"?

Dunno, but to say he's 5'11" you'd have to be blind, dishonest, stupid or have never seen the show. There are many shots of him standing with other people and he's obviously kinda short.

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01-24-2016 , 08:56 PM

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fraleyight,

Why did you lie to us and say you were not going to post anymore after yesterday?

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01-24-2016 , 09:23 PM

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fraleyight,

Why did you lie to us and say you were not going to post anymore after yesterday?

I don't mind him posting, he brings up some good stuff to research.

Don't tap the glass.

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01-24-2016 , 09:24 PM

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Ya, you guys caught me. I haven't watched the show. I just got so interested in a random case that I started reading transcripts, following twitter pages,fb groups and watched videos of the actual confession because.. Well just because.... (sarcasm)

Why the heck would I be here if I didn't watch the show? Holy hell.

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01-24-2016 , 09:29 PM

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I don't mind him posting, he brings up some good stuff to research.

Don't tap the glass.

Same kind of stuff truthers said to me when loose change first came out. Its funny because eventually the majority of people will realize this doc fooled a bunch of people into apologizing for a murderer, then only the fringe supporters will remain defending him. Hopefully, you will be on the right side of this argument eventually.

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01-24-2016 , 09:29 PM

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fraleyight,

Why did you lie to us and say you were not going to post anymore after yesterday?

Why do you care? if you don't like what I say ignore me.

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01-24-2016 , 09:32 PM

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Of the 4 options I gave (blind, dishonest, stupid, or not having seen the show) I didn't think that not having seen the show was the most likely.

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01-24-2016 , 09:33 PM

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Dateline is doing a show refuting the MAM Doc.. That should be interesting. Maybe if there are moving pictures you guys can use some critical thinking.

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01-24-2016 , 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AngerPush

What would you do if you were a prosecutor and had zero doubt that he was guilty?

I wouldn't offer to write his story.

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01-24-2016 , 09:45 PM

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Dateline is doing a show refuting the MAM Doc.. That should be interesting. Maybe if there are moving pictures you guys can use some critical thinking.

That would be interesting. Do you have a link about it?

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