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11-20-2018 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cneuy3
Jason Baldwin though didn't want to take the Alford plea and post exoneration seems to dedicate a good portion of his life to supporting wrongfully accused victims of the law. Seems strange that he would be so passionate about this subject if he were in fact guilty.
Why is it strange? Amanda Knox does the same thing & she's guilty AF. Ryan Ferguson lies he's an exoneree when he isn't his conviction was vacated & goes on (and on) about the wrongfully convicted on Twitter. As does Shaun Atwood (who pleaded guilty to drug offences) since his release.

Baldwin's own defence refused to put him on the stand due to his lack of alibi & didn't even offer one for him.

Their defence thundered they'd actual exonerating evidence, why didn't Baldwin stick to his guns & where is this exonerating evidence? Why hasn't it been submitted anywhere even to the public?

Why did their own defence cop Alford after proclaiming they'd exonerating evidence, when they had a golden opportunity to submit it & definitively clear the three's names once & for all? Again very telling they did this.
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11-20-2018 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by yimyammer
Y* rest of racist rambling diatribe snipped*
What is it with you murderer groupies & general bigotry? Honest question.
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11-20-2018 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by cneuy3
Jason Baldwin though didn't want to take the Alford plea
But did in fact do so, therefore did want to.

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...and post exoneration seems to dedicate a good portion of his life to supporting wrongfully accused victims of the law. Seems strange that he would be so passionate about this subject if he were in fact guilty.
No, that's a thing they do, and 'wrongfully accused' is an assumption on your part.
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11-20-2018 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cneuy3 View Post
Jason Baldwin though didn't want to take the Alford plea and post exoneration .
Sorry forgot to address this & to clarify Baldwin wasn't exonerated at all whatsoever & remains a convicted child murderer due to his copping Alford, which is a guilty plea. His conviction isn't even vacated and he's legally a murderer still, like the other two.
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11-20-2018 , 04:16 PM
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Ryan Ferguson lies he's an exoneree when he isn't his conviction was vacated & goes on (and on)
What does this mean??
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11-20-2018 , 04:27 PM
It means that regardless of how one feels about Ferguson, he keeps claiming on Twitter he was exonerated. He wasn't. His conviction was vacated & while he received compensation, he was never declared innocent by the court. His status reverts back to before trial- a presumption of innocence unless guilt proven bard but the prosecution decided not to retry. Charles Erikson is still convicted & still considered guilty legally by the court.
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11-20-2018 , 04:34 PM
Oh, I see. Kind of seems to be a small irrelevant detail though.
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11-20-2018 , 05:28 PM
"Ryan Ferguson will receive $10 million in damages after civil rights violations by six former Columbia police officers led to a vacated conviction in the 2001 murder of former Columbia Daily Tribune sports editor Kent Heitholt.

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The award came after six former Columbia police officers were found liable for fabricating evidence and violating Ferguson's civil rights by coercing false witness testimony, falsifying evidence and neglecting to follow up on other potential leads while investigating the Heitholt murder."

That's all it takes to secure a conviction - a bunch of dirty cops and a public eager to fall for whatever a scumbag wearing a badge says.
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11-20-2018 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
Oh, I see. Kind of seems to be a small irrelevant detail though.
Well maybe he's simply thick & doesn't know the difference but I don't think it's at all irrelevant to state you were exonerated which is a factual finding of innocence, when you weren't at all. It simply has Ferguson coming across as a liar. Then again he's not the only client of Zellner's making false claims,Mario Casciaro mentioned earlier itt makes the same false claim that he was exonerated. He actually dropped his certificate of innocence request though, which considering he'd face hard questioning in order to get it, was probably a good idea on his part.

Again maybe Ferguson is simply stupid but again such a false claim is not an irrelevant detail or small & I'd respectfully disagree that it is.
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11-20-2018 , 05:58 PM
Meanwhile.... Brad, brendans half brother supports KZ new evidence that BoD was the real killer..... https://theblast.com/brendan-dassey-...uspect-theory/
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11-20-2018 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
What is it with you murderer groupies & general bigotry? Honest question.

Why are you so fruity, fruitcake? Honest question.
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11-20-2018 , 06:01 PM
So not Ninja Ryan then? He in the clear now? "exonerated" you might say?
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11-20-2018 , 06:02 PM
From the wrecking crew, book.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DscnEPoUcAE2Z39.jpg
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11-20-2018 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by yimyammer
Why are you so fruity, fruitcake? Honest question.
Answer the question why are you clearly a racist? To go with your fellow groupie troll's homophobia? You people are such addled disturbed creeps.
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11-20-2018 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
So not Ninja Ryan then? He in the clear now? "exonerated" you might say?
Do you personally think Ryan Ferguson was guilty??
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11-20-2018 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
From the wrecking crew, book.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DscnEPoUcAE2Z39.jpg
Lol at creepy Mignini oops I mean Kratz, sorry. When you can't refute the evidence attack the prosecution. (and cops. And victim and her family etc) Same tropes for different folks.

Cuddly Steve & his (unutterably creepy looking ) nephew sure aren't creepy though, nah-uuh...
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11-20-2018 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
Do you personally think Ryan Ferguson was guilty??
Don't know enough about the case to opine one way or the other. I do know he wasn't exonerated though legally the way Avery was for his wrongful conviction for rape. Looks like ole Charles is left to rot though now that Ferguson's out.

So is Ninja Ryan/Teresa's ex now in the clear or what, in the eyes of Avery & Dassey's fan club? All BOD now huh? Wonder who it'll be next week/month/year...

BTW I appreciate your empathy for the Kerchers even if I vehemently disagree with you re Ms Halbach's case. I therefore apologise for insulting you when I called you a clown even if I don't think much at all of your articles. You should report factually though it would get you more respect.
Cheers.
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11-20-2018 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
Don't know enough about the case to opine one way or the other. I do know he wasn't exonerated though legally the way Avery was for his wrongful conviction for rape. Looks like ole Charles is left to rot though now that Ferguson's out.

So is Ninja Ryan/Teresa's ex now in the clear or what, in the eyes of Avery & Dassey's fan club? All BOD now huh? Wonder who it'll be next week/month/year...

BTW I appreciate your empathy for the Kerchers even if I vehemently disagree with you re Ms Halbach's case. I therefore apologise for insulting you when I called you a clown even if I don't think much at all of your articles.
Cheers.
Thanks
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11-20-2018 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
Oh, I see. Kind of seems to be a small irrelevant detail though.
Among the synonyms for 'exonerate' are discharge, dismiss, free, and release.

Ryan Ferguson's conviction was vacated, which essentially means it was garbage. He was discharged and freed from prison.

The only people known to have acted wrongly were the cops who conspired to frame Ferguson.

Without being able to rely on manufactured evidence, perjury, and coerced 'confessions' the state declined to try Ferguson again after his release.

Yet somehow people seem angry at the victim of the injustice instead of the criminals whose depraved and irresponsible actions robbed a man of years of his life.

Go figure.
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11-20-2018 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
Lol at creepy Mignini oops I mean Kratz, sorry. When you can't refute the evidence attack the prosecution. (and cops. And victim and her family etc) Same tropes for different folks.
Comparing the Manitowoc crew with the Italians is a grotesque insult to the Italians.
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11-20-2018 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by proudfootz
Comparing the Manitowoc crew with the Italians is a grotesque insult to the Italians.
Agreed
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11-20-2018 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
Answer the question why are you clearly a racist? To go with your fellow groupie troll's homophobia? You people are such addled disturbed creeps.
Slice the cake, pumpkin! You bakers are all alike, crunchy, little, oompa loompas groupie-ing around.

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11-20-2018 , 08:26 PM
Best thing about Jesus was he was convicted and got exactly what he deserved.
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11-20-2018 , 08:29 PM
BoD crushed blazer report, he crushed it in 2006.



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11-20-2018 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by proudfootz
Best thing about Jesus was he was convicted and got exactly what he deserved.
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