Fanboy of SA/BD? I don't know them or have any idea of what they did or didn't do. I wasn't there.

I am a fanboy of an impartial investigation and prosecution. And when I head a sheriff's department will recuse themselves from an investigation, I believe they will really play no active part. Call me crazy.

Okay then. I'm sorry for intimating you're a fanboy so. I simply don't share your reasoning or belief about the manitowoc pd being corrupt or your apparent evaluation of evidence or your criteria for what you consider weak evidence or your concept of what you consider reasonable doubt or your idea of an unfair trial or unfair due process or unfair investigation or rights violations or coercion. Nor do I consider it remotely plausible that LE framed Avery & Dassey within the context. Is all. So we're just gonna have to agree to disagree I guess.

Hopefully KZ will sort it out with her brain fingerprinting "evidence"...

For some reason corpus can't wrap his head around the idea that people might have a legitimate difference of opinion about a controversial matter.

Yeah, two separate theories about how the crime 'must have' occurred with two different casts of characters involved.

Honestly - if the prosecution doubts its own theory so profoundly that it changes theories from one day to the next, it's difficult to see how anyone capable of rational thought can avoid reasonable doubt about their case.

Threats to prosecute Steven for other alleged offenses if he is released again due to a false conviction?

Sounds like they aren't very interested in justice so much as pursuing some sort of vendetta against Steven.

Avery was never charged because this happened around the same time as TH. The victims statement was recorded and several eye witness statements were recorded but avery was ultimately never charged because the evidence for the TH case was too overwhelming to drag this victim through the mud for someoen who was about to spend the rest of his life in prison.

Avery wasn't convicted due to a false confession. BD statement was never even used in the avery trial.

Lenk and colborn were testifying to Kocourek not following up on the other county calling colborn and telling him that they may have someone falsely arrested. Lenk and colborn never said this happened all colborn testifed too was giving the sherrif the information and all lenk testified too was taking colborn to file the report. Neither of these man were accused of any wrong doing in the 1985 case.

Its been awhile since I looked up information about this case but it appears pam didn't say earl told her where to start looking, only to look on foot. All that aside, the place she started still makes sense. Its the first gap between the office and the cars parked by the office. Its where i would start.

Yes, that is very odd.

I guess the prosecution didn't have any confidence in the so-called 'confession' they went to such trouble to create.

Another reason rational people have reasonable doubt about this cluster****.

Thank you for withdrawing the claim about Earl supposedly telling PoG where to begin her search.

It has nothing to do with confidence or lack thereof. It's because Dassey refused to testify and his video-taped confession would be inadmissable against Avery as hearsay.

They had enough evidence without it to prove Avery's guilt.

I guess you didn't see the KK press conference that the jurors also very likely saw prior to trial that likely swayed their view going in.

I guess you don't know about the jury selection process aka voir dire, nor did you read the transcripts of the jury selection process in Steven's trial - here are excerpts from what each selected juror had to say.

Well given that I'm a lawyer I am quite familiar with that.

To think it had no effect is silly. Jurors may say they weren't swayed by it, or he's innocent until proven guilty, but the fact remains, they saw it. In the back of their minds they wonder why Dassey isn't testifying. Oh because he doesn't want to sewer his uncle. The conference is always going to be a thought in the back of their minds. Unfortunately it can't be unseen.

And unfortunately that's just how the legal system works.

Even if we assume there's a large effect, you are severely misguided in attributing the effect to the press conference rather than to the actual fact that Brendan confessed to helping Steven rape, murder, and mutilate a young woman.

In your haste to reply, you must have not read the excerpts, or perhaps missed the fact that most jurors said or gave the impression that they hadn't even seen the news conference.

The fact remains that whether or not there was a press-conference, the details that Brendan confessed to would have soon quickly spread just the same. By the time of the press conference, the criminal complaint was part of the public record, as it should be. As a lawyer, you should know this.

It is not the news conference that would potentially always be a thought in the back of their minds (especially since most seemingly did not even view it) - it was Brendan confessing.

http://www.crimeonline.com/2017/06/2...ller-part-one/

WOW, just when I thought you couldn't be any more obtuse.

Carry on....

It is the sheriff's department and not the PD.

Well, there was an allegation of corruption in the false conviction.

It is not about weak evidence. It is evidence collected from personnel that were SPECIFICALLY not supposed to be collecting evidence due to perception of self-interest. That is corrupted evidence.

Wow what? Just admit that the confession had nothing to do with his conviction.

At this point they had

her remains in avery's yard, her items in a burn barrell just outside his house, evidence that she was last at averys before she went missing, her vehicle found on his familys yard with his blood inside the vehicle, her keys in his trailer and a taped confession from his nephew..

Ya I think its time to wrap it up at that point and let the public know they have the guy that did this so they can sleep safely.

It tells us a lot that the prosecution couldn't even present a single coherent theory of the crime.

If they had doubts about what happened, everyone should.

I can't admit something that isn't true.

The coerced statements from Brendan were widely publicized before Steven's trial.

So you're really saying that BD confession had a bigger impact than all the other stuff? Vicitms remains found on his property, her vehicle found with his blood inside and her seeing him right before she disappeared? You are really telling me you believe BD confession was the biggest factor?

No.

Where did you get that idea?