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Dear Judge Willis:

I indicated to you last week that the state had set Monday, January 22, as a deadline for the
Brendan Dassey defense team to consider our most recent plea offer in his case. That decision
was important in the above-referenced case, as all parties recognized the danger in calling
Mr. Dassey as a witness without first obtaining assurances from his assigned counsel as to his
Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination.

On today’s date, January 24, 2007, I received written correspondence from Attorney Mark
Fremgen, wherein Mr. Dassey indicates his unwillingness to resolve his case with a plea, and
recognizes that January 22 was the deadline set by the state. That letter is attached to this
correspondence.

I had asked Mr. Fremgen to include a statement regarding Mr. Dassey’s intent, if called as a
witness in the Avery trial, as to invocation of Fifth Amendment privileges; Mr. Dassey intends to
invoke his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. I also asked Mr. Fremgen to
comment as to Mr. Dassey’s intent, if called and granted use immunity by the court; Mr. Dassey
apparently intends to testify in the Avery trial if granted use immunity.

The state, therefore, has several options available to it regarding Mr. Dassey’s testimony. The
state has conceded that two of the current charges filed against Mr. Avery (the sexual assault and
kidnapping counts) would necessarily need to be dismissed, or severed from the original
Information, should Mr. Dassey not testify in the state’s case in chief. In other words, the state
agrees that it could not ethically proceed to trial at this time, against Mr. Avery, on the sexual
assault and kidnapping charges, if our intent was not to call Brendan Dassey as a witness.

The state could, of course, proceed with all six counts against Mr. Avery, should we intend to
call Brendan Dassey, and request the court grant Dassey “use immunity” as outlined in a
statement of intent filed with the court early in these proceedings.

The state would also have the option of reserving Mr. Dassey’s testimony for “rebuttal
purposes,” should that become necessary, depending upon the defense offered by Mr. Avery.
Consistent with this approach, the state would once again direct that use immunity be granted to
Mr. Dassey, should that rebuttal testimony become necessary.

I wanted to provide this correspondence to the court, and opposing counsel, as soon as I received
it, and therefore am providing it at this time. I asking that this correspondence remain “sealed”
as it involves evidence which may or may not be introduced, and may influence potential jurors
if released to the public. I am also quite certain that the state is not required to publicly disclose
what witnesses it intends to call at trial, other than for the court and counsel’s information on
how to prepare.

Although plea negotiations are ongoing with Mr. Dassey’s attorneys (with discussions
continuing as recently as this morning), the state’s inclination is to ask the court dismiss (rather
than sever) the sexual assault and kidnapping charge against Mr. Avery. We intend to bring that
formal motion, as requested by the court, on February 2, 2007. I alert the court and counsel to
the state’s intent at this time as a matter of professional courtesy.

Although I’m quite certain the state could have proceeded with the sexual assault and kidnapping
counts, calling Mr. Dassey in the state’s case in chief, should Mr. Dassey’s position upon a grant
of use immunity change between now and trial (which is by no means out of the realm of
possibility), the court may be faced with a difficult decision as to whether it could proceed, even
with curative instructions; I do not wish to place the court in that position unnecessarily.

Obviously, if Mr. Dassey’s decision on plea negotiations materially changes the state’s position
between now and February 2, I will alert the court and counsel immediately.

I hope this assists the court and counsel in its trial preparation. As promised, I have alerted all
parties as soon as the information became available to me.

This matter will be made part of the official court record on February 2, 2007, when the danger
of unfair pretrial publicity is reduced.

Sincerely,
Kenneth R. Kratz

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06-18-2016 , 07:20 PM

#8103

DrawNone

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ya its definitely not your job to post here

nm, sorry PoorSkillz had you confused with the shills. can't believe your still battling here,

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06-19-2016 , 09:41 AM

#8104

PoorSkillz

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Originally Posted by DrawNone

ya its definitely not your job to post here

nm, sorry PoorSkillz had you confused with the shills. can't believe your still battling here,

Can you translate this to proper English?

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07-15-2016 , 10:39 AM

#8105

LOLCh1pPorn

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I just watched this and my head exploded

what do i do now?

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07-15-2016 , 10:42 AM

#8106

eddymitchel

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wait 10 years for some closure

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07-15-2016 , 08:32 PM

#8107

AngerPush

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Read the thread

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07-16-2016 , 04:20 AM

#8108

LOLCh1pPorn

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can i skip to some page or is it all worth reading?

srs question, settings are at 100 ppp

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07-16-2016 , 04:30 AM

#8109

eddymitchel

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not even 2% worth reading

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07-16-2016 , 09:51 AM

#8110

Louis Cyphre

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You'll figure out quickly who you need to put on ignore.

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07-16-2016 , 10:10 AM

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centebakkie

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Originally Posted by eddymitchel

wait 10 years for some closure

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Originally Posted by eddymitchel

not even 2% worth reading

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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre

You'll figure out quickly who you need to put on ignore.

That about sums it up yes.

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07-16-2016 , 06:17 PM

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revots33

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Originally Posted by LOLCh1pPorn

I just watched this and my head exploded

what do i do now?

take a deep breath, calm down, and realize you watched a piece of propaganda not a documentary.

Then take a moment to remember the victim, and be grateful that at least the 2 psychos who killed her are in prison.

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07-17-2016 , 07:33 AM

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PoorSkillz

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Originally Posted by revots33

This. We're talking about a guy who raped his niece, physically abused his previous partners (including Jodi) and their children, etc. and that this is all officially documented.

Realize that the actual evidence of Steven's guilt is a lot stronger than portrayed in the show, the actual evidence of a frame-job in reality is nil, and he'll rightfully die in prison.

And if you want to read more:

http://stevenaverycase.com/what-maki...idnt-tell-you/

https://www.reddit.com/r/StevenAveryIsGuilty/wiki/index

http://stevenaverycase.com/

http://www.stevenaverycase.org/

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07-17-2016 , 01:22 PM

#8114

centebakkie

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Thanks.

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07-17-2016 , 02:15 PM

#8115

blackize5

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Keep in mind those last two posts come from 2 of the 3 people in this thread that share those beliefs. They're unfortunately the loudest and dumbest of the participants.

In reality Steven isn't a great guy but he was still railroaded in many ways. And what happened to Brendan was a travesty.

These cases raise huge issues of injustice within the criminal justice system. The series shows much of this, but there are other examples that weren't covered.

And lol at calling this propaganda. There are real injustices here and really the editing and music choices that color things are very subtle and not at all dishonest.

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07-19-2016 , 12:11 PM

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s2 coming on the same case.

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07-20-2016 , 04:32 PM

#8117

Pokerisfunny

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Yeeeees http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/articl...ing-a-murderer

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07-21-2016 , 09:58 AM

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The new episodes will feature Avery's new lawyer Kathleen Zellner as she takes on the case.

LOL oughta be good.

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07-21-2016 , 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by revots33

LOL oughta be good.

I can't help but think the new episodes will be:

A. A cash grab by the film makers
B. An attempt to try anything new in the media since they don't have enough for court.
C. A personal advertisement for the lawyers involved.
D. All the above