tell that to BD

Yeah he probably could have taken a plea if KK wasn't hell bent on getting blood, and the kid coulda been out of prison at 30 instead of spending his whole life there

Thanks for continuing to add to this thread.

According to Kratz, they had a plea deal on the table for Brendan:

Man if he testified against Avery, Avery would have gotten off because of Dassey's fiction and Dassey woulda been in jail for the plea. Lol.

Ya I call BS on what Kratz says there. Kratz wanted BD to have nothing to do with Avery trial. He served his purpose to get his rape story out and that was it.

Disagree completely with both of you.

1. To think that a witness testifying to committing the crime with Steven would help Steven's defense is ****ing ludicrous.

2. Why do you say that Kratz wanted BD to have nothing to do with the Avery trial? While that may be true after Brendan recanted his confession and refused to take any plea deal, as he couldn't be forced to testify, where is there any evidence of this before that or is it just baseless speculation?

Cmon man. Some mentally incapable kid against averys lawyers woulda had a bad time... When he starts spewing about rapes and slitting throats and stabbing stomachs in the bedroom, not to mention going back and forth on everything he would've just casted more doubt on everything

Based on this kid being destroyed by cross-examination. I don't care how long you gave him to prep. The defense attorneys would have been him appear beyond inept. You can see how the made Andy Colburn, a seasoned investigator wearing a uniform, look suspicious.

common sense speculation

I also still don't understand how "all the evidence points to one man and one man alone" yet two men are found guilty of it.

Everything at the confession(s) would have been used as evidence.

Would he answer yes or not if he cut her hair? If he answered no, what would be his answer why 10 times he answered yes? "I dunno" "I was guessing"

You all are missing a very important variable here. What if BD was involved? Don't you think if he had accepted a plea deal and were to testify, his testimony would be accurate and difficult to challenge on cross?

I mean in other words, you guys think he looked bad on cross examination in his trial because hes dumb.. Maybe it had more to do with him lying.

Just like I thought, your speculation is baseless.

That's because the quote didn't say "one man alone"...

1. He's not mentally incapable.

2. He's the only person with Steven that night and he's testifying that they killed her. That's game over no matter how hard they try to impeach the witness. Also worth noting: Brendan was found guilty, even when claiming he made all the **** up and even without the abundance of evidence. That should say it all.

Lol

No two men committed the same exact murder just in dramatically different ways.

Dassey's IQ was reported to be between 69-73. Do you know what that means?

So we are essentially talking about a coerced confession from a mentally handicapped teenager.

I give you guys credit. You have never faltered from standing behind the absolute least defensible and most reprehensible part of this whole saga, the Dassey confession. It completely destroys your credibility and demonstrably proves you are not looking at any of this with an open mind or a desire for truth or justice. But you have your consistency.


Edit: and just to correct something poor said, anyone can be forced to testify. He may plead the 5th but Dassey certainly could have been forced to testify. Of course it didn't really work for Krantz and his dual tracks for the same crime path he was pursuing.

Yeah BD' whose confession should not have ever even been admitted after his attorney got removed from the case for allowing him to be interviewed alone. Yet somehow the confession is allowed.

You keep throwing up this examples like they are proving something. Dassey and his family knew he had nothing to do wit it and the confession was completely bogus so yeah in those cases it is possible some people gamble. Especially a mentally ******ed minor who knows they were nit involved.

Plus what was the plea offer? 10,15,30 years? As far as I know Kratz is the only one to even specify what the plea bargain was. Plus more goes into it than just the length of sentence. Given the nonsense Dassey made up he would likely be doing his time as a sex offender.

Still waiting for ANY evidence independent of Dassey's confession that Dassey was involved at all prior, during and shortly afterwards. I will be waiting forever.

But it's cool if a ******ed 16 year old is lied, abused and manipulated by experienced police interrogators.

Yes it says lol America

You're very welcome. As if this thread is worth truly contributing to at this point.

I'd love to read your thoughts on those posts by Housenuts....

I believe in America if the state wants to call Dassey as a witness they have to exempt him from prosecution for that crime.

Also a spouse can't be forced to testify.

Say "lol America" all you want, but the fact is you want it to be one way in your "common sense" world, when it's the other way in reality.

There should be an appeal to a jury of hicks fallacy.


Avery was found guilty of rape. That should say it all. Oh wait lol you.