Do you believe that it is impossible in principle to conclude beyond a reasonable doubt who killed someone without knowing beyond a reasonable doubt how he or she did it?

Lmaoooo what the hell does marksmann expect investigators to find when HER BODY WAS BURNED TO ASH AND BONES?!? Does he not realize it makes it a bit difficult to rule out Mark's bizarre and unreasonable poisoning/drowning speculation in this case?

Even still, they had a forensic anthropologist analyze the bones and determine she had been shot before she was burned. There's really nothing else possible to determine.

I'd hate to read mark's thoughts on something like the Scott Peterson trial.

Confirmed he is framed for a 3rd crime in 2016.

That same anthropologist LIED in court about how she asserted that the bones could not have been moved, went against her professional instinct's & tried to persuade the jury. And was found out in another case to have LIED in court again to try & convict another human being of a murder. Yeah she's totally reliable non biased. LoL this bitch can't even tell human bones from animal bones. But hey KZ is in DA House.

Zellner Tweet: My brilliant science director accepted at Northwestern Law-exposing the junk science of Avery's conviction. #MakingAMurderer

Latest Zellner Tweet..Easy part: planting evidence. Hard part: avoiding scientific detection 10+ yrs later.#MakingAMurderer #Sciencerules

Unfortunately the School Bus driver cannot confirm that it was the 31st oct 2005 & may have been the visit on or around the 10th oct.
Also the truck driver cannot confirm that it was a RAV4 & did not see the driver.

Season 2 will likely be about zellner.. NO motive for her to take a guilty case you say?

Season 2 imo will be about the framing of SA/BD......

Latest Zellner Tweet..Easy part: planting evidence. Hard part: avoiding scientific detection 10+ yrs later.#MakingAMurderer #Sciencerules
#tictocmantiowoc

Would you like to discuss WHAT evidence KZ has? That CAN PROVE that SA/BD where framed Fraley?

#tictocmantiowoc?

OK I give in. Her ongoing stream of very professional tweets has me convinced.

I agree with lkasigh here. That are scenarios where the killing can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt but not the exact method. For example body buried in backyard, head in freezer, pics of corpse on cell phone and blood found in the house. Doesn't matter much if the victim was shot, stabbed, bludgeoned, poisoned or strangled.

It's funny the shots being taken at Zellner as someone who is just fame seeking when people write things like:

I'm pretty certain she wouldn't get that type of recognition in Wisconsin though.

Hard part: planting blood, bones, bullet, Rav4, and key on a paranoid suspect's property with his dog outside.

Easy part: avoiding scientific detection 10+ yrs later.

IMO

Easy part: Reading the transcripts.

Hard Part: Understanding the transcripts.

For some, it would appear that both of these tasks are difficult.

You guys wondered why someone like Zellner would defend SA if he is guilty.. Well you now have your answer. If MAM gets a second season, she will be the star.


Also, anyone see the incident reports that were released about SA?

http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-co..._Manitowoc.pdf

For Oski, understanding the transcripts is so easy that he didn't even need to read them.

I have not read the transcripts and yet, I know more about the case than you do.

Weird how that works.

Because you don't understand the transcripts , you have actually decreased you knowledge of the case.

For example, not understanding the difference between an expert opinion and percipient testony has substantially muddled your brain.

If you need a good example of how to work with source materials, look at 5ive's treatment of the BD interrogations. He demonstrates an ability to analyze the material as opposed to you, who just parrots back excerpts of testimony without understanding anything about it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MakingaMurd...shows_rush_to/
Least surprising information ever

Wow. Don't ever get accused of a crime. Don't ever talk to the police. #butfreedom

I just saw that Dean Strang and Jerry Buting are going to be in my city for a talk on 4/30. Am I weird to think this may be worth $50?



Making A Murderer's Dean Strang & Jerry Buting
Palace Theatre Columbus, Columbus, OH
Sat, Apr 30, 2016 08:00 PM

^ do it. $50.

if you go, worst case, waste of money.

if you don't, regrets.

Better milk the cow while its there aye guys?

Are you talking about Kratz's book?

I liked those 2 guys on the show but there's something a little unseemly about charging $50 and doing paid appearances, because you represented a young woman's murderer.

Maybe they are donating the proceeds to charity or something, I hope?

Correct.
For bonus points can you guess which charity?


I am glad to see that you finally came to you're senses regarding KZ. lOl