Good post. Here it is formatted since the reddit link is dead.

I know there is a lot of buzz about Colburn and what this person said and what time line is and so forth, but I have a problem with the entire RAV4 they found. There are many issues with it...


1. 1999 RAV4 was the only year that Toyota made two colors that are very close, one is dark green and the other is green blue. Teresa's vehicle was dark green yet the Crime Lab shows photo it is the greenish blue.

2. A broken blinker light with a replacement blinker that is laying in RAV4 in the cargo hold, yet Teresa's vehicle had no damage and according to the John the propane dealer who saw it drive away, states it looked shiny new with no damage.

3. The RAV4 they have found has been towed, which bent the frame.

4. The latest pic of Teresa holding her keys in front of her vehicle, notice the missing paint on the top of the passenger door? Well, the crime lab photo of the RAV4 they say is hers, is not missing paint in those places.

5. In yet another crime lab photo of the RAV4, it shows sever rust and damage to the passenger side where the two doors meet and we know this was not on Teresa's vehicle.

6. Her real keys are missing, and now we have a valet key? Is it because the real key would not start the duplicate RAV4?

7. Its known as a Salvage Yard Scam to switch VIN on two vehicles to sell a stole vehicle. Was a switch made on the Vehicles in order to hide the real murder scene and that explains where all the blood is?

8. The battery cable was disconnected, it is standard to disconnect the negative battery cable to tow a vehicle. Why tow it if you can drive it, unless you can't because its so damaged that it would draw unwanted traffic police attention.

9. The blood in the back of the RAV4, there should have been much more unless her heart came to rest prior to being placed there. It would suggest this was post mortem.

10. Her license plate was not attached to her vehicle and found crumpled up in the trunk of another vehicle. Is this because to transfer the plates on to the duplicate, would have made fresh metal scratches and drawn even more suspicion?



So now let me ask you this, Who would have a means to....


1. Incinerate a body at 1700 degrees to produce just bones

2. Tow a vehicle with out showing records of such

3. Crush Teresa's real RAV4 to hide the actual murder scene

4. Have access to planting Steven's blood

5. Have the know how and ability to switch VIN's so easily

6. Locate a replacement RAV4 on quick notice

7. Have the inside knowledge of how to stage a crime scene

8. Have a questionable past issue with the truth

9. Have not one but three motives



I want you to look at the list.

1. We know that Mark Fassbender investigated Avery's incinerator, it was not used for months.

2. Why would Steven tow the vehicle?

3. If Steven did it why not crush the vehicle with her body in it and bury it somewhere

4. Steven admitted early on and has always stated that he leaded his palms onto Teresa's vehicle and that's why they may find his palm prints on her RAV4, yet no prints, NONE, not even the girl that drove this car for 2 years are found?

5. The switching of VIN numbers is called "SALVAGE Yard Scam"

6. A car dealer would, especially one that had been in the business of Auto Sales his entire life.

7. Someone in Law Enforcement

8. Someone that had lied for 18 years, keeping an innocent man in prison and allowing a rapist to roam freely.

9. First motive, Rival Business. Second, Revenge. Third, $36,000,000.00

Who would have an incinerator, a tow truck, a crusher, replacement vehicle with no prints and no real evidence to link the real murderer, VIN switching knowledge, access to your own pick of vehicles and contacts in the Auto business, High rank individual beyond questioning, Manitowoc County Sheriff.

Guess what, he is the President of Cleveland Auto Sales and Salvage. He was a deputy in 1985, he was the undersheriff in 2005 and is now the Sheriff of Manitowoc County Police Department.
He and he alone fits all that would be needed to fulfill the requirements for this type of accident and he is the one saying all over, that Netflix is taking things out of context and out of order, and says that's how its done to keep every one confused. He is saying this in my opinion because He himself is the one that did this and so he knows how it works.

Just saying, don't get distracted. Focus on what a killer would need to accomplish the tasks. That is how you find the real killer.

Know as a Salvage Yard VIN Scam http://www.vinetching.com/vin-switching.html

Also http://cleveland-auto-sales-salvage....-sales-salvage

Friday, February 16, 2007 An anonymous letter and 970 items of evidence Buting said he found a letter last fall in the Calumet County file on the case, and said it was found in the Green Bay post office after Halbach disappeared. The letter allegedly said "body burned in smelter, 3 a.m. Friday," and Buting took that to mean an old smelter near an old Avery salvage building. He said police did nothing with the letter, and did not send it to the crime lab for analysis until he asked. "Is that because a body being burned in a smelter doesn't fit your theory?" Buting asked. Fassbender said the smelter had been examined by arson investigators and "it hadn't been used for a while." "It would not make sense to burn the bones in the smelter and take the bones and place them in your own backyard, would it?" Buting asked.
(No one ever check the Sheriff's Incinerator at his Salvage Yard but this seems to be very much what the letter could be referring to.)

Saus, that theory is amazing!!

How would he have known TH would be st SA'S and even still be able to pull that off with no witnesses? Seems very dubious.

I think if anything, you slide that theory in with the "concurrent framing" theory and it works better.

I thought TH wasn't even sure she could make it to SA and only confirmed at about 1:30 that day (which also works against Kranz' theory SA lured her there).

I dunno, it's hard for me to wrap my tiny little brain around all of it.

But, if it turns out not to even be her car, then that's huge.

Whoever wrote that post copied and pasted it like 5-6 times, and then the link from Saus went to some other page.. Wonder if it's spam or something.

Yup. Add to that that the bones were scattered 30 ft apart, No Photo's or/of Location of said bones plus the extent to which they were burned(maybe Ms Z got something on this) & in 2 other area's.

Defo think Sheriff Peterson was involved with AC at initial crime scene/cover up.

Still don't know who killed TH, don.t know if we ever will.

The Guys defo onto something, because in a county that small SA was imo under surveillence.

What do you all think of the Innocence project withdrawing their support for Avery after that cheesy confession from Brendan? Seems like they don't have much backbone.

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I've been looking at the different pictures of the Rav4, and it does seem to have a different tone.. Hers being greener, and the one in evidence being bluer. Toyota should be getting a call soon about the specifics of Theresa's car.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MakingaMurd...ficate_issued/

Teresa Halbach's Death Certificate.

Pronounced dead at 4:10 pm Nov. 5, 2005

Funeral Home Licensee signature date: Nov. 10, 2005

Signed and stamped by coroner Dec. 6, 2005

Cause of death "undetermined" but then struck through.

Thoughts?

I think they need public to finance them and when the media blasted brendan story it was a huge liability for them.

This was at least her 6th visit to SA's house, if not more. It's completely believable to me that they had his phones tapped since the moment the lawsuit was launched, specifically to look for anything that could get that suit tossed.

When Steve turned out to be nothing but a happy-go-lucky bro living out his life for 2 years and they realized they were going to be facing that case, they literally and figuratively pulled the trigger on the TH plan.

(IMO)

Has this drawn interest from people in other countries?

So the call from colborn was from some auto repair sales type shop and when he says 99 toyota its to double check, don't want wrong year.

Also who got jodi held in the night of 31st OCT from her AA meet? If it was not for something she done it adds to a theory.

And a great find by lostinthesaus there on the, death certificate. WOW.
why so soon?
why no cause?

that s in line with the brother knowing she was dead when she was only missing.
definitly some weird stuff(no i m not saying the brother is behind it)

Lol this sums up why Steven is going nowhere.

There's a reason we have trial transcripts.

Let's see if SA had an unfair trial in the first place before crying about a new one.

There's a reason we laugh at you.

Pretty sure roommate/brother/ex/friends/family/coworkers would know her vehicle and know that colour is slightly off if not hers

I doubt that, but the dealer that sold the car to her should know.

Car wasn't where it was found on night of Oct 31. Take it for what it's worth...

http://www.accesshollywood.com/video...ver-interview/

I was referring to the fact your stance is obvious.

But keep playing the pretentious high road person in the middle. Working out well for you.

Niece is surprisingly decent looking.

I would be surprised if it was anything but a ****ty picture problem. I remember noticing some color variations right away and thought the lightning + différents caméra + potential filters was the issue.

I did notice this instantly when he replied to me but it set me on auto massive tilt so decided was best to just shut down 2+2 for a bit.

I prefer this theory - it has a few holes, but it's the best one that points to Steven's innocence.

His stance is that the trial and investigation are awefull and Noone can state wether avery or someone else is guilty. Avery could have done it but the prosecussion theory makes absolutly no sense.
People saying avery absolutly didn't do it are as rare as the 100% convinced morrons in here

Countdown to ... "That's what Hitler would say"...

Except you only called one group morons.


I understand what he claims. But his belief is obvious through his exchanges. Just because you never say it doesn't make it true.