He was asking like he was looking at the plates. He asked her to run plates which is weird. If he was just checking the missing report info to help in further searching for instance I would think he would have just asked to have the missing report information from dispatch read back to him.

His facial and body language in court during this was suspect too imo.

There are some theories that he found it in the lot (without a warrant) and told her brother where to search,etc. Planting evidence etc doesn't seem out of the question either.

That seems like a logical conclusion. I think he is probably guilty, but I also think the police helped the investigation along by planting the key. The lady finding the car in 15 minutes is just ridiculous. Someone told her where to look. The fact that she was given a phone makes it even more damning.

So, maybe the cops find the car during an illegal search. Afraid that the car gets tossed, they start the framing?

Yeah, Colburn and Lenk died on the stand.

Has there ever been any information w/r/t satellite images that might be available? I think this could be interesting given the prolonged search on the Avery compound.

SA's biggest mistake was not moving the hell out of that county or even Wisconsin after his release from prison. But I can see how this wouldn't be possible for a man of his limitations who missed life with his family for 18 years. Also I believe he referred to this issue one time.
I wonder if the innonence project guys were trying to make him consider it. While I'm sure no one would've imagined a crime of TH's caliber (if he is innocent that is), other stuff could've happened all too easily if you look at his family's record and reputation.

http://www.businessinsider.com/steve...-framed-2016-1

juror was fearful of their life so they decided to send a man to jail for the rest of their life..now they are speaking up.

Cowardly act. I would imagine it was fake, but BI seems like a credible source.

well i guess they said that on the today show, but hopefully the writers were able to confirm with buting/strang that said erson was in fact a juror

Maybe police and prosecutors said some threatening things like they did to SA's attorneys.

That's already explained, God showed her the way.

This seems like a sound theory, but I'm not sure how presenting this information helps the defense if they are trying to maintain that SA is innocent. This would insinuate that Colburn didn't actually know the location of TH's RAV4 until the day she was reported missing, making it unlikely the police planted the car on the lot.

I guess I'm trying to think of a scenario where the car is placed on the lot by someone other than SA or the police, and when Colburn finds it, he has to call in the plate to make sure he's found the right vehicle.

I think the bones burnt at the quarry and her blood in the vehicle are weird if he killed her in garage or house and the prosecution's story is that he burnt her in the fire pit by the house. Why haul her body anywhere? Why burnt bones at both places? It would mean he drove her away from the house bleeding and then brought back burnt bones right? I was thinking they were possibly guilty but reasonable doubt should have got them off but those things don't make any sense to me either so I really don't know haha.

Did they every confirm that those were her bones in the quarry? I thought it said they were mostly animal bones and that two of the bones appeared to be from a human pelvis but they were never matched to anyone.

can't confirm but this is what I found:
http://www.exposingtruth.com/looking...en-avery-case/

The exchange immediately after should've gone like this:

Objection.
On what grounds?
Thats ****ing ******ed.
You're right. Sustained.

Isn't the whole damned thing moot without TH's blood anywhere?

IMO we should break this whole thing down into parts by significance. Something like:

"How did that woman find the car so quickly?"

Is suspicious and interesting, but not compared to the lack of TH's blood on Avery property.

Documentary should have been titled, "How to frame a guy who may or may not be a murderer."

This is also from the exposing the truth site Capone linked to

Does that mean the missing report didn't indicate what year the RAV4 was?

Wasn't SA in jail before BD was born? Isn't BD 16 when SA gets out after 18 years in prison?

Or are you saying it happened when he got out, I've heard this before and I thought they said it happened when BD was little.

Seems like BD was born while SA was in prison and was about 14 when he got out.

Its never mentioned in the documentary whether the plate is still on the car when they find it.

Which is important because if its been removed it kills the theory that they just found the car in the salvage yard and told that woman where to find it.

I guess that would allow the fiction that police found the license plates somewhere else in a legal search if they needed to try to explain the call.

What are the consequences for shoddy police work in general?

I know Buzzfeed is a terrible source, but this link claims that rather than being reprimanded, guys like Colburn and Lenk have been promoted.

How is something like this possible? You can fail to sign in to a crime scene where you shouldn't even be and get away with it, no problem? Fail to report phone calls and generally just choose what you report or keep to yourself?

I have a much lower key job with no real human consequences and if I don't record everything, I'm on the line for it. Does it just not matter if you're a cop in a small town?

i said it was bogus and misleading. the main reason i said that is there is zero evidence that anything happened in the garage, murder or cleaning. so just because brendan has some tale about being knee deep in blood, bleach and intestines (and happens to have a couple of jizz stains on his levi's), doesn't mean that resembles reality in any way.

anyway, the jeans were collected but as best i know, not introduced as evidence in either trial (i can't find a mention on the convolutedbrian site where he posted a lot of details from both trials).

from brendan's trial:


again, from brendan's trial:

Also from the convolutedbrian site:

What actually was cleaned with what, and even where, I'm not sure. But Jodi's testimony, combined with the bleached jeans and what Brendan and his mom said, definitely points to some kind of cleaning going on.

Wasn't every call recorded?

They're recorded, yes. I could be wrong, but I think Steven's lawyers were able to get the judge to not allow his phone calls as evidence.