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02-12-2023 , 05:39 PM
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Ep 3 > Ep 5 > Ep 2 > Ep 1 > Ep 4
Agreed - nit picking here but Rose, I mean.. Kathleen, had couple of good opportunities to blow her brothers killer away but he is conveniently saved by the zombies each time. Not that it would've made any difference to his fate ultimately, but just seems like bad/lazy writing.

If it was to stay true to the game, then fair enough.

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Also it irritates me how much people use flashlights when they are trying to not be seen. Ridiculous.
This.
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02-12-2023 , 06:55 PM
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Also it irritates me how much people use flashlights when 20 years after the end of the world batteries, if they even worked, would be impossible to find. Ridiculous.
FYP. I will give them credit for the fact that in E4 they did acknowledge that Joel had to fill up the truck with gas more often than normal because it'd degraded over time, although even then 20 years........heck, I empty out my snowblower each year because I'm afraid the gas in the summer months would degrade too much
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02-12-2023 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jkkkk
Agreed - nit picking here but Rose, I mean.. Kathleen, had couple of good opportunities to blow her brothers killer away but he is conveniently saved by the zombies each time. Not that it would've made any difference to his fate ultimately, but just seems like bad/lazy writing.
Blowing him away would have never been enough for her. She’d have tortured the **** out of him and probably even killed Sam in front of him, then maybe finished him off.
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02-12-2023 , 10:26 PM
Gun trained on him with "it ends how it ends" certainly seems to imply that she was just going to go straight for the killshot. Admittedly a little ambiguous because of how long the pause was between that line and the interruption.
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02-12-2023 , 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
Gun trained on him with "it ends how it ends" certainly seems to imply that she was just going to go straight for the killshot. Admittedly a little ambiguous because of how long the pause was between that line and the interruption.
Villains always have to give a speech before they're conveniently stopped from carrying out their nefarious plans, that's writing school 101
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02-13-2023 , 01:02 AM
Solid ****ed up episode
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02-13-2023 , 03:49 PM
Good episode…I liked humanizing Ellie some with her interactions with Sam. I also thought the Kathleen character was chilling and Lynskey gave a great performance.
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02-13-2023 , 09:41 PM
so what was the point of that whole kansas city side quest? pretty funny if that's a show-only addition
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02-13-2023 , 10:28 PM
It was probably the biggest section, gameplay wise, in the game. You’re there for awhile before you even meet Sam and Henry.

Before that, you get some “getting to know you” moments, and the “Joel finally lets Ellie have a gun” but not until she kills a dude who almost kills him, and she uses a rifle from high ground so Joel can clear the area for them to cut through. There’s also a section where have another bloater but you can sneak passed them.

It’s while escaping the truck that you meet Sam and Henry. They’re not part of KC. They were part of a group that they got split from and are trying to find a way back to them. You find a place to chill until night, then move through a few areas. Then the truck re-emerges and they leave you two behind. Joel and Ellie jump off of a bridge, he saves her but gets knocked out and then Sam and Henry save you both.

The next section is in the sewers, which the show nailed really well. The fact that they had Ish in the show was amazing! You get out of there, then the sniper section happens, very similarly to the show and then find a place to camp out. Ellie and Sam in the room was similar, but Ellie doesn’t know he got bit. Joel and Henry actually bond.

That morning, basically the same thing happens. But we smash cut after Henry shoot’s himself. And we pick back up quite a while later.

They grabbed all that they needed from the game and added what was necessary then made the biggest moments far more impactful. One thing I never agreed with in the game was that Henry would kill himself, but I absolutely understood in the show.

I don’t think that there is anything non-players don’t know going into ep6 that we knew our first times. As big as that section is in the game, it’s all gameplay and would make for some shitty TV lol
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02-13-2023 , 10:34 PM
yeah when the sniper part was happening i was like oh this has to be a mission from the game lol


thanks for the details
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02-14-2023 , 12:01 AM
I don’t play video games and haven’t for some time now so don’t really care how faithful it is to the game. It’s just very good on its own.
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02-14-2023 , 12:47 AM
yeah at this point it's a well-made zombie survivalist show


the total lack of plot is seriously alarming. we're still at square one with joel needing to find tommy and get ellie to some lab (??), in that order, for reasons that will probably be apparent later. if this bogs down even further now that they're stuck outside kc without a car i stg...
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02-14-2023 , 01:28 AM
To say anymore would be very spoilery, but I wouldn’t worry about thinking there is a lack of plot.
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02-14-2023 , 05:10 AM
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It was probably the biggest section, gameplay wise, in the game. You’re there for awhile before you even meet Sam and Henry.

Before that, you get some “getting to know you” moments, and the “Joel finally lets Ellie have a gun” but not until she kills a dude who almost kills him, and she uses a rifle from high ground so Joel can clear the area for them to cut through. There’s also a section where have another bloater but you can sneak passed them.
Just replayed the 1st game a couple weeks ago. Currently going through game 2 again but just wanted to ask if the 'bloater' you are referring to is the one Joel faces off with once he falls down the elevator shaft in the hotel? If so I had no idea you could sneak past that thing as i thought all the infected are alerted to you when you turn on the generator.

Btw, the show did an amazing job introducing the 'bloater'. That sound and the guys face then panning to the bloater emerging in the slow mo were amazing followed by the bloater choke slamming a few people and then decapitating the guy.(who also if you didn't know I think plays the voice of Tommy in the game) Such an amazing action scene overall.
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02-14-2023 , 05:42 AM
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Just replayed the 1st game a couple weeks ago. Currently going through game 2 again but just wanted to ask if the 'bloater' you are referring to is the one Joel faces off with once he falls down the elevator shaft in the hotel? If so I had no idea you could sneak past that thing as i thought all the infected are alerted to you when you turn on the generator.
Yup. That’s the one. They’re all alerted but not all know where you are. Sneak might have been the wrong word but you don’t have to fight it. If you get it to chase you to a different section, you can sort of sneak passed it when things settle down.
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02-14-2023 , 07:34 AM
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the total lack of plot is seriously alarming. we're still at square one with joel needing to find tommy and get ellie to some lab (??), in that order, for reasons that will probably be apparent later. if this bogs down even further now that they're stuck outside kc without a car i stg...
I've never played the games. It seems to me that we're going to go from "this show is about Joel et al saving the world" to "they just do what they have to to stay alive, there are no happy endings bigger than that". And maybe that's too much to hope for too.
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02-14-2023 , 09:02 AM
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I don’t play video games and haven’t for some time now so don’t really care how faithful it is to the game. It’s just very good on its own.
Same another good episode
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02-15-2023 , 12:49 PM
Definitely 3-4-5 have been the best episodes. Starting to get pretty legit. Will be interesting to see what they can do once they surpass the game script.

Can we start to tip a cap to these epic actors with hispanic heritage? Pedro Pascal and guys like Diego Luna are absolutely crushing TV right now. We've come a long way from Trejo/Leguizamo/Banderas/Garcia.
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02-15-2023 , 02:42 PM
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Definitely 3-4-5 have been the best episodes. Starting to get pretty legit. Will be interesting to see what they can do once they surpass the game script.
For me episodes 1 and 2 were the best and 3-5 haven't lived up to those standards.

Episode 3 could've been great but it spent far too much time on side characters that were going to die to get its message across. Easily could've been accomplished in 15-20 minutes and give the rest of the episode to the main protagonists.

Episodes 4 and 5 were too "The Walking Dead"ish and the lady leading the resistance was just not believable in her role, her acting was meh and I don't see a bunch of gun-toting dudes in an apocalypse just falling in line behind her and taking orders from her when she's clearly unhinged.
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02-15-2023 , 02:45 PM
Got a good laugh out of that moment in Episode 5 when Joel was offering reassurances that he wouldn't go after Henry and Sam. "That's a weird ****ing tone, man." "No no, he just has ******* voice, we're fine."
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02-15-2023 , 02:49 PM
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Got a good laugh out of that moment in Episode 5 when Joel was offering reassurances that he wouldn't go after Henry and Sam. "That's a weird ****ing tone, man." "No no, he just has ******* voice, we're fine."

Yes, he did the tone perfect, that scene was really well executed
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02-15-2023 , 06:10 PM
its decent show so far, decent as in a 6 or 7 out of 10, im sure fans of the game love it but for me its a zombie series which the walking dead did great for 1 or 2 series.

i will keep watching for sure as its decent but not top tier.
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02-19-2023 , 04:40 PM
Have been a week or two behind since episode 1 so have been avoiding thread, am caught up and ready to watch E06 tonight though.

Put me in the E03 was fantastic, one of my favourite episodes of television ever, camp.

I do feel Kathleen was a paint by numbers apocalypse character and her acting was pretty wooden. The Walking Dead felt like it had a character like her in every episode. Sure, they gave her some more context in E05 with Henry's story but it did not really redeem it for me.

Henry and Sam however were great. Following the game or not, the show is going to have a ton of 1-2 episode arcs with small supporting roles that exit as quickly as they enter. Some are going to land for audiences and some won't.
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02-19-2023 , 05:53 PM
I game a lot but never got hooked on The Last of Us, I played it but I didn't like the gameplay very much (which surprised me bc I love naughty dog and horror games), and never got far into the game. Puts me in a weird position of being a very active gamer, played the game, but pretty much everything in the show is new to me (though I know about the stuff that reached gaming news in the 2nd game, if you are unaware of that DON'T LOOK FOR IT).

I am really liking it. It hasn't hit GOAT status for me, if it can keep this quality through out I will probably put it somewhere in the backend of my top 10/15 since it is very good and I'm a sucker for horror/zombie stuff.

Thought episode 1 & 2 were amazing. Episode 3 was amazing as well but all the hype around it made me expect even more. E4 & 5 were great. 1>3>2>5>4? Idk

It's funny to see some scenes where everybody thinks "oh yeah this is based on a video game", but I don't think we would notice anything weird had it not been based on a video game (maybe with the exception of Joel sneaking up on the sniper).

I didn't mind Kathleen, I think she would've worked great if they took some more time to develop her.

The comments about filler are kinda tilting me, the show is telling a story about how these characters survive in this world and how they manage to build a relationship in a crazy world like this. There is a bigger plot arc, sure, but the show has focused on Joel & Ellie and their relationship firstly and life in this world secondly. Nothing has really felt like filler to me. And even if you disagree with that, it's still great ****ing filler, no?

The biggest thing I don't like is actually that I feel like it is going too fast. I think they could've cut the first game into 2 or 3 seasons and took more time with the plotlines we have seen so far. For example, all character deaths so far really hit me, but I think with a little more building & time they could've hit so much harder.
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02-19-2023 , 11:45 PM
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The biggest thing I don't like is actually that I feel like it is going too fast. I think they could've cut the first game into 2 or 3 seasons and took more time with the plotlines we have seen so far. For example, all character deaths so far really hit me, but I think with a little more building & time they could've hit so much harder.
As someone that loves the games and so far has loved the show I think they are pacing it perfectly and one of my original worries was that they would struggle to find material as the story in the game is amazing but it's obviously a game so alot of the time is filled up with gameplay. At this point in the game Joel, atleast how I played the game with Joel, would probably have killed 100+. Obviously playing as Joel like Rambo in the game is a fun ride for the player but it doesn't translate very well to the reality of a zombie like apocalypse. I think they've done an amazing job building the chemistry between the characters while also making them feel realistic to how these people could act in real life in these situations while keeping them vulnerable both emotionally and physically to the outside nature of it all.

Sure they could stretch it out some with maybe a few more confrontations on their journey, etc but it's really not needed to make this a great show and tell the story and they've done an amazing job so far with everything else.
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