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This. This was a very entertaining week, a great kick-off to the new season. With his five victories, Roger is already guaranteed a spot in this year's Tournament of Champions, so even if he doesn't go on a very long run, we can look forward to seeing him back sometime next year.

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09-19-2010 , 01:44 PM

#402

ImsaKidd

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Originally Posted by Triple B

Are you referring to her wagering $1000 on a subject she had approximately 0% chance of answering correctly?

If it was nearly 0% she should have wagered $0

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09-19-2010 , 08:28 PM

#403

g-bebe

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Except she's stupid, so she didn't. I mean, she couldn't even come up with an actual NFL team name, yet thought wagering $1000 was a good idea.

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09-20-2010 , 04:17 AM

#404

driverseati

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Originally Posted by Triple B

Are you referring to her wagering $1000 on a subject she had approximately 0% chance of answering correctly?

If she has a 0% chance, why wager even 1k, wager 0 then.

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09-20-2010 , 04:55 AM

#405

1724g

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Originally Posted by driverseati

If she has a 0% chance, why wager even 1k, wager 0 then.

I don't think anyone would ever have a 0% chance of being correct only because of the built-in clues that Jeopardy likes to throw in to the "answer." Some are so blatantly obvious that anybody could guess correctly. So might as well gamble for a chance to win it all.

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09-20-2010 , 07:47 AM

#406

master3004

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Yeah but FJ is never really blatant with their clues. FJ tends to be a very straight forward and sometimes difficult trivia question. On that particular answer there was no particular clue, and while I got it, it was after the 30 seconds had elapsed.

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09-20-2010 , 09:15 AM

#407

1724g

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This was the answer for the FJ when Roger won $77K:

The inspiration for this title object in a novel & a 1957 movie actually spanned the Mae Khlung River

To me, this was very easy. But, even without knowing this instantly, it talks about an object "spanning" a river. (Big clue for birdge).

Then it gives the Mae Khlung River. Obviously somewhere in Asia. Don't know of too many Asian bridges featured in book or movie titles besides the one on the River Kwai.

Just one example, but sometimes the clues are just not there and you either know it or don't know it. This one walked you right into the answer IMO.

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09-20-2010 , 09:52 AM

#408

Josh J

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that is exactly the point i continue to make. but its not about having a 0% chance--in a vacuum, its about having less than a 50% chance. if you think you are less than 50% to get the question right, dont bet anything, except when the situation dictates otherwise. but you never see anyone bet zero. it's mind-boggling.

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09-20-2010 , 09:55 AM

#409

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Originally Posted by master3004

what show are you watching? FJ is NEVER straight-forward trivia. it is always constructed such that few people are likely to know the exact question to the answer right away, but using clues provided in the answer, they can figure out the question.

(i

being nitty about the words question/answer in a jeopardy! context)

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09-20-2010 , 09:59 AM

#410

Josh J

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Originally Posted by 1724g

didnt see this one, but i definitely answer "bridge over the river kwai" here and then kill myself. i hate a lot of things about jeopardy, and one of those is when someone scores a cheapo by stealing someone else's response (although im not talking about FJ here, obv). something like,

"who is dostoyovskiy?"
"say it again?"
"dostoyovskiy?"
"no, sorry. yes, cheapofag?"
"who is dostoyevskiy?"
"DERP! YOURE IN CONTROL OF THE BOARD!"

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09-20-2010 , 10:00 AM

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Triumph36

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fwiw they accepted bridge over the river kwai, probably because that is such a common corruption of the film title

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09-20-2010 , 10:16 AM

#412

Mr. Philosophy

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Originally Posted by Triumph36

fwiw they accepted bridge over the river kwai, probably because that is such a common corruption of the film title

The category was book and movie figures. The actual title of the book is Bridge Over The River Kwai. Both answers were acceptable.

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09-20-2010 , 02:04 PM

#413

youtalkfunny

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Little Rock, Pasternak,
Mickey Mantle, Kerouac,
Sputnik, Zhou Enlai
BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI

Lebanon, Charles de Gaulle
California baseball,
Starkweather homicide,
Children of Thalidomide

oh, uh-oh...

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09-20-2010 , 02:20 PM

#414

vixticator

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LOL you think people are bad at Jeopardy I dare you to watch The Price is Right, my head literally exploded after watching the bids! First chick bids 1250, Second bids 1600, Third bids 1599 (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), Fourth bids 2200 (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!). My faith in humanity has been shaken to the core.

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09-20-2010 , 02:25 PM

#415

g-bebe

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way too many ******s on Price is Right. I mean bidding early is obviously the worst position but it's unbelievable how many people screw up bidding last. Like 97% of the time you should be bidding either $1 or $1 over the highest bid/gap.

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09-20-2010 , 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by g-bebe

Incorrect on the last part of advice. Bidding 2nd, too great a risk you get overbid by 1 by someone else (unless you are against ******s).

The best advice against optimal players is to bid a bit high if you are first. You want to be high enough no one wants to outbid you by 1, but low enough to get as much as possible. With ideal play, the last person always bid $1.

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09-20-2010 , 02:32 PM

#417

1724g

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Originally Posted by vixticator

C'mon 3rd and 4th bidders were going for the $500 bonus for hitting it on the nose!

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09-20-2010 , 02:52 PM

#418

GMan42

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I always wondered if they should implement a "bids $100 apart" requirement or something to mitigate that huge disadvantage the 1st couple of bidders get, but if people are going to be 'tards like this about it, I guess we can leave it as is.

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09-20-2010 , 03:24 PM

#419

TomCollins

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Originally Posted by GMan42

The last bidder will move to a better position for the next game. The newer players get that spot. They should be at a disadvantage over a people who got to the bid game first. It works itself out in the end.

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09-20-2010 , 03:51 PM

#420

Ungoliant

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Originally Posted by GMan42

I can only imagine the hilarity that would ensue as the average TPIR contestant tried to understand such a concept.

"500!!!"
"I'm sorry, player 1 bid 450. Bids must be at least $100 apart"
"Oh ok, 540!!!"
"Nope, still too close."
"Uh, 400?"
"You idiot."
"Oh I get it now, 700!!!"
"I'm sorry, player 2 has bid 650"

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09-20-2010 , 03:53 PM

#421

TomCollins

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A good strategy would be to bid 199 below someone else. Lock up a big range.

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09-20-2010 , 03:55 PM

#422

Dr. Spaceman

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Originally Posted by Ungoliant

Somewhat related, but I like watching Card Sharks reruns on GSN and often a person will misunderstand the question and need to reverse their guess.

For example, if the question is "we asked 100 bachelors, have you ever dumped a girl because her breath smelled. How many bachelors said yes, they have?". The person will say "Oh I don't think that happens too often, I'll say 83." Then the host will explain to them that it's how many said "yes", not "no", and the person will say, "Oh in that case...27". They screw up this math over half the time.

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09-20-2010 , 06:49 PM

#423

Michael Davis

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Originally Posted by Dr. Spaceman

Pretty sure there's a strong correlation between being a contestant on tv games shows and being a huge idiot. Konstantin Othmer excepted.

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09-20-2010 , 07:24 PM

#424

Zimmer4141

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Just thought of something which could be a massive mistake (yet common one) from an EV standpoint.

Tonight scores going into final:

Roger 35,200
Mary 18,000
3rd girl 6k

Here, Roger should be betting like 17,199 correct? 3rd place is completely out of it, you assume Mary is betting it all, so to win Roger still has to get the question right. Assuming he is > 50% to get it right (which he almost def is), he should bet this instead of the standard 801 in that spot.

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09-20-2010 , 07:33 PM

#425

Triumph36

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meh i'm not going to wager based on other people wagering intelligently. questions like this are why someone wrote a dissertation on jeopardy bidding strategies.

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