so the show was one draccarys away of having only one season. lame.

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Damn is what a scene. A reminder that dragons are the real ****ing power.

Plot armor is the strongest kind there is

hot take but i feel like her not just killing all the bad ppl is gonna turn out to be a blunder

Yup, following up the sitcom misunderstanding trope with this is not good. Bonus unnecessary foot fetish plot as well

Thought the foot fettish was probably one of the best parts of the ep tbh. Makes total sense that he's a sex freak, same way littlefinger had pedo vibes. Alicent doing what he wants is also interesting considering all her religious beliefs.

foot fetish stuff was dumb af. Larys is supposed to be this super Machiavellian character that can see all the angles and has his tentacles in everything and the dudes weakness is....feet?

another good episode, not quite as good as previous 2 but still very much enjoyed it. thought the foot fetish seen was fine and made total sense. Also kinda creepy but not surprising that otto seems to know something odd is going on with those 2 and using it to further his position.


It feels like there should be 2 more eps left in the season not just one.
1. Rhaenyra/daemons & children's reaction and response as this ep was 100% hightowers
2. some sort of confrontation/build up to next season with the impending conflict/ power struggle

They will be putting it all into the season finale, so will see how it goes but it feels rushed right now.

The trope of the misunderstood last words was so unnecessary. They could've continued without that and then this episode Alicent realizes that her father and the others have been plotting without her.

From the moment Rhaenys entered the hall I was thinking "damn, how's the series gonna continue if she kills everyone?", and then...she just leaves.

Still loving this series, but I would've cut out those 2 scenes. You could have changed the second to Rhaenys escaping with her dragon and smashing a building or two (but not entering the main hall) and killing a handful of guards or whatever and it still would've been pretty badass.

One thing that doesn't really make much sense is why Viserys and Alicent's kids are all so ****ed up. They both seem like they'd be decent parents, or at least as decent as it gets in this realm, so why the trope of "Aegon is so ****ed up b/c his parents didn't love him"?

I think they are all so ****ed up because of the subtle infighting between Alicent and Rhaenera and picking up on the tension between them. Picking up on the issue with Rhanera's kids being bastards. The natural tension of the succession. Things like that

Yah, but Rhaenyra's kids are subject to all the same in-fighting, plus a ****ed up situation where they don't know who their real Dad is and having to pretend to be some other dude's kids that they look nothing like. Yet they're the normal ones. They have far more reason to be screwed up than Alicent's kids.

This show is picking up and getting better

Pros: dragons, castles, some gory stuff, deceit, plotting and scheming

Cons: takes itself way too seriously (insert a joke or half a smile somewhere ffs), dgaf about the characters- I couldn't care less what happens to whom, 99% of the shows dialogue is about inheritance which is tilting, would like to visit flea bottom or some peasant folk more often

Every episode is like an awkward first date where I'm like yeah that was ok but I'm missing my ex GoT

Thought the last 2 episodes were good and this one was awful.

Did I miss how Rhaenys go to her dragon?

Why were those two kingsguard fighting with Criston over who brought Aemon back?


The entire part around Aemon going missing seemed like the writers realized they didn't make it clear enough already that he's not a good guy and needed to make sure the audience felt that way.

Foot fetish stuff was dumb. Larys is now head of a fairly big house, he could find several ways to get his fix, unless he specifically needs a queen's foot.

HBO's refusal to have evil women has assassinated Alicent. She went from exceptionally smart to an idiot. Having her go along with her father's plot to put her son on the throne is also a far more interesting angle for her character. Really awful decision.

regarding dragons: they chose the dragon pit to have the meeting. dragon was right there.

regarding the brothers: they are twin brothers and one has a decent moral compass and the other doesnt. one is with the green and the other seems like will join the black.

agree with the alicent part. in the books she gives no ****s about killing rhaenyra at this point. they are trying to make her more gray.. thats terrible! just look at what they did with the aegon prophecy and now this.

Thanks.

I thought the guy who helps her flee specifically says she stands no chance of getting to the dragon because it's well guarded. Then she shows up riding it in full armor.


Was the brother who got into the fight planning to take Aemon somewhere else then? It seemed like regardless of his beliefs he would have taken him back to the keep.

they were both serving the greens, just different people. one was serving alicent and the other otto. since alicent doesn't want to kill rhaenyra she kinda went against her father on that mission.

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I'm still confused lol. Both Alicent and Otto wanted Aemon returned to the keep. So he was going to fight, or trick, his own brother and escape the city with Aemon, angering both Otto and Alicent? At that point it seemed like Aemon would have gone along with it, but it still seems pretty far fetched that he'd get Aemon out of there.

at this point both of them would take aegon to the keep, yes. just to different people. I'm just saying it was implied one of them would turn to the other side, not exactly right now.

I think you may end up confusing everyone by calling him Aemon. The two brothers are Aegon and Aemond.

It's relatively clear you mean Aegon, but it took a second.

There is an Aemon in the other series (Maester of the Night's Watch).

Ooops yep, meant Aegon.

i can buy that it isn't something rhaenys would do, especially after having that conversation with alicent about not killing ppl. but then i wish they staged it differently where she didn't kill a bunch of innocents lol


seems fine. takes 5 minutes for rhaenys to land in dragonstone and tell them what happened, and the rest of the ep for them to plan & respond. and whatever big thing happens will lead into next season


think it makes total sense. vicerys was a nice guy, but he figuratively and almost literally died when aemma did. and lost his son, and his brother, and faith in his dreams, and his body fell apart, etc. seemed like he started spending much of his free time with his model city judging by how big it got, rather than with his kids. rhaenyra was his only child in a lot of ways, and he lost his relationship with her too. that favouritism was felt most strongly by aegon, which i guess is part of why he's so adrift.

and with alicent, her mother died when she was young & her father is basically tywin, and then at 15 she was forced to marry her best friend's dad. she was isolated with her kids as the queen, rather than alicent. her entire life was about being repressed and controlled, sitting at a nice window in a prison. and as a result she continued the cycle of abuse that she experienced by treating aegon like a political pawn his entire life, forcing him into a marriage and dangerous role that he didn't want. not surprised he feels unloved. and aemond & helaena both seem like untreated autistics, so that's a lot of what they're about. shame they probably didn't get more attention from dad too because aemond seems to be a historian, and viscerys really should have chatted with that daughter about dreams.

I didn't get the two (three?) groups searching for aegon either.

alicent and otto were fighting over control of aegon. eric & erik were trying to get him to otto (before whichever is the good one quit and then went to free rhaenys, and presumably join #teamblack), while aemond & cole were trying to get him to alicent. aemond & cole won, which allowed alicent to set terms to otto regarding the transition of power.

who was the 3rd group?

So what was the bulding that burned? Where those kids fought?