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02-01-2016 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
The only thing negative I'd have to say, is that Louie does not have much range as an actor
I thought the exact same thing while watching it.
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02-01-2016 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
The only thing negative I'd have to say, is that Louie does not have much range as an actor
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Originally Posted by Roy
I thought the exact same thing while watching it.
Oh he's very much like Seinfeld in that regard. Can anyone think of the converted standups who proved to be great actors? He's an exceptional writer and an average actor. I'm sure he'd even agree with that.
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02-01-2016 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Oh he's very much like Seinfeld in that regard. Can anyone think of the converted standups who proved to be great actors?
Jamie Foxx, Jim Carrey, Robin Williams
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02-01-2016 , 09:18 PM
ok, i watched it.

firstly, from the website it looks like there will be 4 episodes, but that's certainly not confirmed. so presumably (though perhaps not), a $20 investment.

i think a lot of the comments belittling people for not wanting to pay $5 are very unfair, especially given the uncertainty around the total cost of seeing this unfold and the extremely high likelihood that it will be available on netflix in the near future.

for me personally, louis ck content always jumps to the top of my list, so i paid $5 (let me be clear that i download other tv shows illegally multiple times a week, i'm not a saint). however it is incredibly easy for me to imagine fans of louie that don't feel the urge to see this as soon as possible.

there is so much excellent tv out there and so little time, that a large percentage of people are likely to already have access to dozens if not hundreds of hours of critically acclaimed tv that is at least comparable to or 'better' than this. it's not a question of $5 to see this now or never, it's probably more accurately phrased as $20 to see this now or for 'free' in 6 months.

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anyway, let's put that to one side. mild spoilers from this point forward:

it kept me interested and i enjoyed it. i didn't really find it that funny at all, which is fine and i was expecting that.

i get that it's a play but i didn't like a lot of the way shots were framed in the first half, though the second half was a lot better. i liked the occasional hesitation on some of the lines, obviously it makes it more like theatre but it also makes it more like real life. with that said, i wasn't a fan of constantly hearing mics get hit.

i agree with dom's comment on the political stuff being a little shoe horned in. i also agree that louis's acting came a little into question here, but, i think that was a combination of being surrounded by incredible talent, playing a much more serious role, our familiarity with seeing him play himself, and in fairness, just him not putting in his best work. he is clearly way, way, way better than jerry seinfeld though.

the acting by both falco and buscem towards the end of the episode was really exceptional i thought.

one thing not mentioned that i really liked was the original song by paul simon, very nice touch.
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02-01-2016 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Actually disagree on that too. I think it's a very interesting topic, and Louis CK has been destabilizing the ticketing industry in his way for a while now. Here he's decided to cut out the networks. The viability of it all is super fascinating to me. I fully expect other big stars to follow this up very soon if it works for Louis.
meh I think discussing the viability and effects of the model is different then ppl going back and forth on whether or not $5 is alot of $ etc.

it's almost as bad as discussions on tipping.
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02-02-2016 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Also a question from a non-techie... can u watch this on your tv? Via chromecast, etc.? I am not a fan of watching TV on my laptop.
whenever you buy stuff off his site you get a stream option and download options of various quality. the 1080p version is a 1.7gb file with no DRM, you can do whatever you want with it.
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02-02-2016 , 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
I think a lot of people differ on that opinion (myself and the New Yorker for example). I really liked the topical political stuff, so did my wife.

Anyone know who in television has ever done what Louis has with this dramatic/sad comedy? I can recall brief flashes of it in things like Black Adder (the WW1 segment), but has there ever been an entire series? Because if not then he's basically invented a tv genre. To do that in 2016 is pretty impressive.
I think you could say Nurse Jackie. And I don't think I'm thinking of that because Edie Falco was in it, I think Edie Falco is in Horace and Pete because Louie recognized a similar comic sensibility in Nurse Jackie. Which is all the more interesting since Edie Falco herself didn't think Nurse Jackie was a comedy.
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02-02-2016 , 09:08 PM
this was excruciatingly bad

alan alda has a couple of decent lines, but more because of shock value. his character quickly becomes annoying.
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02-03-2016 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
meh I think discussing the viability and effects of the model is different then ppl going back and forth on whether or not $5 is alot of $ etc.

it's almost as bad as discussions on tipping.
And yet every single review out there right now is stuck on the $5. It's the main topic of discussion actually.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/fi...eleases-861445

The amazing thing is if he'd have released it for free with a sponsor, people would be raving right now. The $5 is really damaging it.
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02-03-2016 , 03:05 PM
If everyone started doing this $5 per episode thing, a lot of actors and television production people would be out of work. How many shows could people afford to watch for $5 an episode?
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02-03-2016 , 03:55 PM
Well, I'm glad I paid to see it...but I will admit that while I would probably keep watching if it was on TV, I am not going to pay to watch any more episodes.
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02-03-2016 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by OneOut
If everyone started doing this $5 per episode thing, a lot of actors and television production people would be out of work. How many shows could people afford to watch for $5 an episode?
if you figure the average cable bill is $70 a month, and you want to watch 1 episode of a show per week, you can afford 14 episodes, which works out to about 3.5 shows.
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02-03-2016 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by domer2
if you figure the average cable bill is $70 a month, and you want to watch 1 episode of a show per week, you can afford 14 episodes, which works out to about 3.5 shows.
Sure, for people who don't watch much TV. But I watch far more than 3.5 shows per week not even including sports. It's a decent model only for people who watch very little TV, but really love one or two shows enough.
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02-03-2016 , 06:43 PM
I might pay $1.25 for an episode, although it doesn't really sound like this is my kinda thing tbh. To each his own. No play for me, thanks.
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02-03-2016 , 09:22 PM
Friend of mine told me Louie did this instead of a Kickstarter to fund more eps of this via Reddit
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02-03-2016 , 09:39 PM
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Friend of mine told me Louie did this instead of a Kickstarter to fund more eps of this via Reddit
i'm interested in understanding what this sentence is supposed to mean
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02-03-2016 , 09:59 PM
how much are episodes of random shows on iTunes?
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02-04-2016 , 05:38 PM
email just now:

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Hello friend guy lady or other,

Some of you are aware that, last Saturday, I launched a new series on my site louisck.net called “Horace and Pete”. I’m writing now to tell you some stuff about it….

Horace and Pete is a new show that I am producing, directing, writing, distributing and financing on my own. I have an amazing cast: Steve Buscemi, Edie Falco, Alan Alda, Jessica Lange, Aidy Bryant, Steven Wright, Kurt Metzger and other guest stars. Also Paul Simon wrote and performed the theme song which is beautiful.

The response to episode one has been great so far and there are more coming. We are making them now and having a lot of fun doing it.

Part of the idea behind launching it on the site was to create a show in a new way and to provide it to you directly and immediately, without the usual promotion, banner ads, billboards and clips that tell you what the show feels and looks like before you get to see it for yourself. As a writer, there’s always a weird feeing that as you unfold the story and reveal the characters and the tone, you always know that the audience will never get the benefit of seeing it the way you wrote it because they always know so much before they watch it. And as a TV watcher I’m always delighted when I can see a thing without knowing anything about it because of the promotion. So making this show and just posting it out of the blue gave me the rare opportunity to give you that experience of discovery.

Also because we are shooting this show in a multi-camera format with an emphasis on a live feeling, we are able to post it very soon after each episode is shot. So I’m making this show as you’re watching it.

Okay so let’s talk for a minute about the five dollars of it all. If you’re on this email list then you’re probably aware that I always make an effort to make the work I do on my own as cheap as possible and as painless as possible to get. That’s why my specials are five dollars and that’s why I sold tickets to my last big tour here on the site, with our own ticketing service at a flat price with no ticket charges and we have worked hard to keep my tickets out of the hands of scalpers.

So why the dirty ****balls did I charge you five dollars for Horace and Pete, where most TV shows you buy online are 3 dollars or less? Well, the dirty unmovable fact is that this show is ****ing expensive.

The standup specials are much more containable. It’s one guy on a stage in a theater and in most cases, the cost of the tickets that the live audience paid, was enough to finance the filming.

But Horace and Pete is a full on TV production with four broadcast cameras, two beautiful sets and a state of the art control room and a very talented and skilled crew and a hall-of-fame cast. Every second the cameras are rolling, money is shooting out of my ******* like your mother’s worst diarrhea. (Yes there are less upsetting metaphors I could be using but I just think that one is the sharpest and most concise). Basically this is a hand-made, one guy paid for it version of a thing that is usually made by a giant corporation.

Now, I’m not complaining about this at all. I’m just telling you the facts. I charged five dollars because I need to recoup some of the cost in order for us to stay in production.

Also, it’s interesting. The value of any set amount of money is mercurial (I’m showing off because i just learned that word. It means it changes and shifts a lot). Some people say “Five dollars is a cup of coffee”. Some people say “Hey! Five dollars?? What the ****!” Some people say “What are you guys talking about?” Some people say “Nothing. don’t enter a conversation in the middle”.

Anyway, I’m leaving the first episode at 5 dollars. I'm lowering the next episode to 2 dollars and the rest will be 3 dollars after that. I hope you feel that’s fair. If you don’t, please tell everyone in the world.

Meanwhile, we’re going to keep making Horace and Pete. We’re going to keep telling you the story.

I sincerely hope that you enjoy it. I’ll write you again later and tell you more about it. It’s fun to talk about. But for now I want to shut up and not ruin the experience of you just watching the show.

Here’s the link for the website. Enjoy episode 2 of Horace and Pete. We’re shooting it now. You’ll get it on Saturday morning.

This person,

Louis C.K.

Last edited by Yeti; 02-04-2016 at 06:18 PM.
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02-04-2016 , 06:27 PM
What was the logic behind not hyping up the show before releasing it ?
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02-04-2016 , 06:34 PM
Really like how he addressed that. And I was certain the $5 was a reflection of the expense of making it totally solo with that group. No complaints from me, I'll keep buying.
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02-04-2016 , 06:38 PM
julianassange,

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And as a TV watcher I’m always delighted when I can see a thing without knowing anything about it because of the promotion. So making this show and just posting it out of the blue gave me the rare opportunity to give you that experience of discovery.
reading is hard

if your argument is 'he could still have said 'something new is coming out this weekend' and given no details about it', meh. i imagine that hurts sales. his email list is pure $$$ to him, and the surprise drop not only got people interested but also generated a ton of press he may not have gotten if he announced it in advance.
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02-04-2016 , 07:43 PM
Love Louies emails

Nice of him to clarify everything in his own inimitable way
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02-04-2016 , 08:01 PM
Yeah, great email.

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Anyway, I’m leaving the first episode at 5 dollars. I'm lowering the next episode to 2 dollars and the rest will be 3 dollars after that. I hope you feel that’s fair.
I think that's fair - especially if other TV shows cost $3 on iTunes or whatever.

I feel much better about paying $3 directly to Louis than to a corporation. He works his ass off and produces excellent content which continues to make me laugh and think so much and often in unique ways. Also from what I remember reading he donates a tonne of the money he makes to various charities and to giving back to his crew.
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02-04-2016 , 09:49 PM
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The response to episode one has been great so far.
gonna need a fact check
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