The show is still engaging at the character level, but the plot seems non-existent.Also, was June supposed to have mental superpowers to control the girl in the grocery store?

I think the show is still very well done and fun to watch, but plot wise it's really reaching. The idea that Canada would even entertain diplomacy with Gillead seems ridiculous, like the US negotiating to return a rescued infant to ISIS. And how does a big prayer rally in DC serve to pressure Canada? Seemed designed mainly to provide an excuse for some cool cinematic shots on the national mall.

Also I don't buy June's plot armor, she should be either hanging from a wall or cleaning up toxic sludge in the Colonies by now.

I am enjoying Bradley Whitford though, probably my favorite part of this season.

Last two eps were fantastic imo. Liz Moss absolutely pwns this role.

Haha wtf. The latest episode (the one with the Lydia flashbacks) may have been the worst turd of an episode of any show I've seen in years. The last few eps have had some of the most absurdly ******ed storylines and scenes in the history of tv shows that have at a point actually been top notch tv. I have no idea what the writers are trying to do but nothing in this show makes sense AT ALL. You could just pull random storylines out of a magic 8-ball and it'd be better. I haven't hatewatched a show this hard since The Walking Dead like 6 years ago.

I didn't think the Lydia flashbacks sufficiently explained why she went from loving 4th grade teacher to sadistic monster.

Was she really a self hating closeted lesbian? Was it just because her boss said he wasn't ready for sex yet, and that one moment of rejection pushed her over the edge? It wasn't clear to me, and regardless it didn't really explain her instant transformation.

religious self righteous gonna religious self righteous
with a soupçon of rejection and unappealing

Don't worry, none of the scenes in this show make any sense these days. I have a lot of trouble trying to understand any of the characters' motives most of the time.

-What was that zoom into June's face at the end of the episode?
-Why did the handmaid who got shot go nutso all of a sudden? I can kind of get her freaking out over being scared for her baby / the weird bullying thing earlier in the episode, but there's been 0 character development over her character at all, and there was nothing indicating that she would randomly snap like that (as opposed to what Emily and the one-eyed girls did in the earlier seasons)
-Speaking of which, wtf was that SHAME! SHAME! scene
-Seems really credible that June would be allowed to randomly walk away minutes before that speech in Washington and have some happy alone time in front of the monument... and how about that shouting match with Serena that literally 1000 people would hear?
-Why does June keep saying super mean things to people who have 100% control over her faith? We are supposed to buy that she's smart but she just keeps saying **** like "I should have let you die" (Serena) and "you monster, you are making your wife suffer" (to Bradley Whitford)
-Why does June never get punished for anything anymore? All the stuff she's pulled off this season would have had anyone else missing limbs but somehow she can do whatever she wants
-So Lydia never came to the conclusion that there was something going on with the Waterfords despite the 135135913 absurd things that took place when June was staying there, but now she's somehow convinced that the Lawrences are an issue? And isn't Lawrence supposed to be a mega boss, suuuuuure seems credible Lydia just randomly moves his handmaid elsewhere

Not to mention to incredibly ridiculous end of season 2, or the aforementioned Lydia flashbacks that made no sense at all, etc etc

The only things that are kind of interesting / sensible are the scenes that take place in Canada. Although they are also pretty dumb in many ways (whenever international politics are involved, as if anyone would actually negotiate with Gilead etc), I'm at least a little bit invested in the characters over there.

But yeah man this show has fallen off a cliff. Fire all the writers and maybe you can somehow still salvage some of it?

Yeah that was terrible.

Yeah I don't get this either. The plot armor is completely distracting at this point as they are constantly killing or maiming other characters for far less.



I also am STILL not 100% sure about what the going explanation is around Gillead for the disappearance of the baby Nicole from the Waterford's. Is the story that Emily broke in and kidnapped her, and that Serena and June had nothing to do with it? And Fred is helping cover it all up to protect Serena?

I mean, children are the center of everything, and one gets taken, and no repercussions? Wouldn't they interrogate/torture every Martha in the city if they had to until someone cracked? Especially the Martha who worked in the Waterford house and who was the one who told June "we can get you out but you need to leave now".

It's just so implausible, they are trying to have it both ways by making June both a victim of a brutal and murderous theocracy with spies everywhere, and also a bad-ass who acts like she knows nothing bad will ever happen to her.

lol, that zoom-in on her face has been a thing LITERALLY every episode and its supertilting, MENACING FACE PLOTTING A REVENGE THAT TAKES PLACE IN HEAD x100

it kinda reminds me of the simpsonsshiftyeyesdog.gif

They aren't even bothering to try and explain June's plot armor anymore. Spoiler in case people haven't seen the most recent episode:

Horrible. Almost a one actor, one room episode. I'm expecting the next episode to be 60 minutes of June's face.

Yeah, was not a fan of the latest ep. In what universe would they leave her alone in there unmonitored??!!!

Finally got hulu and started binging this about a month ago.

Super disappointing after a promising season 1. The episode in the hospital room was beyond awful. Somehow she is able to get away with causing more trouble nearly each episode than they've shown everyone else loses body parts or is executed for.

I was mostly interested in how the world came to be, but seems like they realized everything is so completely absurd within the given timeline that they decide to just ignore all the glaring holes. There is really no answer to "how does this world actually work."

It would be better IMO if it was more like The Village or something far in the future instead of driving the plot by trying to sell that the entire continental US was taken over in the span of a couple years current day.

Latest ep was much better. I am enjoying slightly insane/IDGAF June.

Oh look, June kills the leader of the whole ****ing Gilead while on an undercover mission in a brothel in a world where women aren't even allowed to leave the house without an escort. Obv she escapes without issues. Yawn

The commander/Serena/Canada stuff could get interesting, or alternatively they might brush it off completely. Again seems pretty dumb that the commander would fall for that tarp and accidentally drive to Canada tho, lolol.

remember the first time we saw jezebels and she had to be hidden the whole drive and snuck in? now she just rides front seat and walks around as she wants by herself

commander driving straight into canada is hilarious. obv serena sold him out

also what was up with the gay vibes that uber commander was giving waterford during their pool game that absolutely nothing came of?

tons of flaws but much better ep. at least things are moving along and i'm engaged in the plot even if continuity is lacking.

This show is laughable now. Why in the world would the Canadians let June's husband in the room with Waterford so he could punch him in the face? Why would they give visitation rights to the woman who participated in the rape of the child's mother? Why would everyone just say, "huh, guess the commander is missing", rather than round up every single person in the brothel and interrogate/torture them until they cracked? Why would the govt of Gillead keep open the border, just because they feel bad that Lawrence's wife died? Why are the handmaids and marthas constantly plotting in the grocery store when they are supposed to be under constant surveillance and guards are everywhere? Why does Waterford drive for miles into Canada without suspecting anything weird might be up?

It's just ludicrous. I also think Moss has officially drifted into overacting with the crazy June plot. Cinematography still A+ though.

The show has so many good shots / cinematography. Any single shot of June making an expression or whatever is well done, quality stuff. But here the sum of the parts > the whole, because no matter how well done these shots are, I am simply burnt out on watching June stare at the wall, the ceiling, the camera, whatever.

And the plot is just nonsensical obv.

All of this. I'll add the "you're not allowed to use the word 'mother', you'll confuse her" line from the social worker when Serena said something like "don't worry, mommy's here". I mean the baby is what, 3 months old? I would assume babies aren't going to be particularly confused by people's word choices at that age.

The Bankole/commander meeting was one of the dumbest things ever presented in this show and that's a lot said. It didn't even serve any purpose to advance the plot in any way. Even though the whole giving Serena visiting rights to the baby in exchange for giving them Waterford is obviously entirely implausible, I think it's fine to use that much creative license to get the plot moving. Plus as a behind the scenes deal to get something as incredibly valuable as Waterford I don't think it's even *that* far-fetched given what a f*d-up world it alread it is and that the baby is already living with basically strangers. But stuff like this random dude getting to meet the Commander before he's even been interrogated just so we can watch Luke punch him is so annoying.

And whyyyy did we get that June face shot at the end again. They just had to, didn't they?

I also thought that the moments after Lawrence's wife had died were really weirdly written/shot. We hear how the marthas discover her, and in like the next scene it's all taken care of and Lawrence comes back all chipper like yo guys, wifey died, oh well Based on all we know about Lawrence, wasn't his wife virtually the only thing he really cares about, yet he doesn't even miss a beat when she's dead?

Can't wait for the finale, I'm predicting June escaping death by some serious superpower **** quite a few times and then finishing the episode with a 5-minute zoom straight into June's face.

the all black handmaid outfit was dank

everything else was silly

Show built an amazing world, and doesn't know what to do with it.

They actually do a good job ratcheting up the dystopia. Mouth rings were chilling.

wowwww that was awful

lets just casually move 100 people thru the middle of a full scale manhunt

what was everyone else in town doing? seems like this could have happened a long time ago

theres apparently just one guy guarding the plane to canada but a dozen to guard the canteloupe section at the store. 30 people start throwing rocks at him, he opens fire with a machine gun but then stops to chase a single person thru the woods? the ****? where were the other guards he was talking to? did the gunfire not raise alarms?

the waterford storyline isnt even worth getting into

Lol yeah just terrible.

Even if we ignored all the plot contrivances, it wasn't even done well as pure action. This was the big escape sequence they spent 13 episodes building up to, and it was somehow 100% suspense-free.