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Originally Posted by FlyWf
The issue with the LF plot is that a guy whose one character trait is playing every side against each other inexplicably walked into a trap, and the trap itself was pointless. Why did the sisters go through the charade? All the offscreen talk of them figuring **** out, then consulting their brother who has the Game of Thrones Wikipedia on his phone(his throwaway lines about him checking out private conversations from season 1 really expanded his three eyed raven powers, which was the writers introducing a huge plot hole into every double cross that happens between now and when Bran dies), them telling the guy from the Vale, none of that gets shown just to set up the twist where Baelish is the one getting j'accused.
It was a scene for the audience, not for any of the characters. But as the audience, we all thought it was going way too fast with out of character backbiting. It just didn't work. Littlefinger is the character who set the ENTIRE SERIES in motion, he should've gotten his comeuppance in a more satisfying way than having his betrayal be discovered off screen.
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Originally Posted by bixby snyder
Edit: everyone else in the room was cool with this?
Sansa: "These are your charges how do you plead"
LF: "Not guilty"
Sansa: "Alright well I'm gonna slit your throat now anyway because my weirdo psychic brother says you're guilty"
Northern lords: "Seems legit"
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Originally Posted by philfan05
So confused by the Arya/Sansa/LF plotline.
I thought from the beginning, the sisters were both pretending to be mad to set up Littlefinger to fall into their trap and then kill him. This never really happens though. I thought that Arya would put on a mask and pretend to be a LF spy or something. What was the point of them pretending to be mad the whole time and then killing him. They cold have just killed him like 5 episodes ago.
Are we supposed to assume that maybe for like 1 episode it was real anger and then Bran told them everything and then pretended for a little while longer?
Are we supposed to assume they were really mad until LF told Sansa about figuring out who your enemies are and then applied that test to LF?
Was gonna make a post about this but these posts have most of what I wanted to say. That plotline was emblematic of how the show is written now to arrive at super sick dramatic REVEALS whether or not it makes any storytelling sense to do it. I saw Sansa's "....Lord Baelish?" coming a mile off but my reaction was still "wait, what?".
So like... at least some of the conflict between Sansa and Arya was real. There was the scene with just the two of them. So why does Arya finding out that Littlefinger is a creep mean she's not distrustful of Sansa anymore? Don't all her worries about Sansa still apply? How did they reconcile? When did Bran tell Sansa all the stuff about LF? Why did he wait so long? What did that scene look like? Why did Sansa make this big show about dragging Arya before the court? That appeared to be, like Fly said, a scene for the audience. Wouldn't it confuse hell out of the other northern lords?
My point here isn't just that the whole thing makes no sense, it's that I actually wanted to see those scenes where Sansa and Arya realize what a scumbag LF is. I feel like we got robbed of those in order to set up this DRAMATIC REVEAL that was lame and predictable. Think about how all this could have gone down instead. We could have had LF spy on Sansa speaking to Bran, and then a game of cat and mouse where LF knows the walls are closing in. Maybe we could have had a complete callback to the scene of Ned's betrayal, where LF thinks he still has the Knights of the Vale on his side, and then the big reveal is that Sansa has already got them onside and they seize him instead of protecting him. There are a million ideas, instead we got this dumb reveal that was achieved by withholding good scenes from the audience.