S4 will be the best TV season imo.

I'm more interested in TWOW.

But yeah w/e no point in bitching let's just use this thread.

Just marry a book reader brah

I don't see how one wiki quote from the middle of an article can prove anyone wrong (is wikipedia the modern word of God?).

You mean this one: "A narrator whose perception is immature or limited through his or her point of view." So anyone whose "perception is limited through his or her point of view" (read everyone) is now an unreliable narrator.

They should go back to having books written by God rather than by these pesky humans with limited perception.

am I the only one who thinks they are using the "all men must die" waay too much in their ads recently?

Does arya end up in the house of black and white this season?

oookkkkk back to the initial point.

Robert saw Rhaegar as a villain who kidnapped the love of his life.

Barristan referred to Rhaegar as 'the best man he ever knew' and Rhaegar was widely loved and adored by his people.

It is just as likely that Lyanna was kidnapped and imprisoned as it is that she willfully ran off with the 7 Kingdoms' biggest heartthrob and got knocked up.

My point is that our only real account of it is from Robert's point of view, and he lost the love of his life.

All of the game of thrones characters are unreliable narrators. Your example of Bran is actually a good example - we have to filter all of the information we glean from Bran's POV into what we know a 7 year old thinks like. If we were going by based solely on what Bran saw, then Jamie and Cersei were just "fighting" however, we know it's more than that because we understand what sex is.
They're unreliable because they all act without perfect information, Bran's was just that he did not understand what sex is. So, while it may be their own perception of what is going on, that does not necessarily make it what is actually happening. Does this make sense?
It's not as noticeable with, say... Tyrion, because he's astute and often right in his presumptions (and these are proven through other character's POVs too) but that does not make him "reliable" it makes him smarter than certain other characters.

For instance (and this is extremely far-fetched), if Tyrion happened to be color blind and there was a character in the book with what he perceives as grey hair that only he interacts with, but the character's hair is actually flaming red. Say this character's hair color is a defining characteristic of a lineage that people believe to be extinct. It would be unreliable narration ultimately, because the character's hair is not actually the color Tryion perceives it to be.

It's a pretty damn clever method of telling this entire series because it makes a lot of things ambiguous that might not have been that way with another form of narration. It's what allows some people to assume many different theories because what we see isn't necessarily what is actually happening.

http://academic.reed.edu/english/cou.../narrator.html

Yeah, and I know there's a reason for what they're doing, I just think they are doing it wayy too much.

I think S4 fully depends on how much they change from the book to the show. If they keep the scenes the same (Tyrion trial word for word, Red Viper scene, Battle at the Wall, Tyrion killing Shae/Tywin etc) it could be the best. I'm just nervous they are going to change or add too much.

funny thread http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comme...lines_of_ados/

"What is your favorite dialogue from the series?"

my fav answer:
The heads of Daenerys Targaryen, Jon Snow and Tyrion Lannister were already beginning to rot under the heat of the Summer sun. It was his 101st name day, and the second day of his reign. Walder Frey sat on the iron throne at last, hoping his new wife Sansa would bear him more trueborn sons.

haha this is amazing

Winter is mf coming

First four Episode Titles.


Episode 1: “Two Swords”
Episode 2: “The Lion and the Rose”
Episode 3: “Breaker of Chains”
Episode 4: “Oathbreaker”

"Lion and the Rose"? So that's confirmed Joff and Marge's wedding looks like. Man I cannot wait to see that little twerp choking to death at his own wedding feast, gonna be amazing.

Who has Needle in the TV show at this point?

In the book its the dude she kills in the Inn w/ the Hound, right? Tickler? Or was it Polliver?

so

1: setting up the season and the lannisters at the peak of their influence
2: joffrey's wedding and death
3: dany taking mereen
4: ?? brienne gets her sword, and jon gets ambushed by janos & alliser?

was thinking ep 4 could be brienne meeting 2ith cat but seems too early. so its likely she attends the wedding.

it's with polliver. inn scene is presumably coming in season four.

Great move if the wedding takes place on only the 2nd ep. Show watchers will never in a million years expect the king to die so early in the season.

It seems weird to have such a big character die so early though. Joffrey is awesome, I was hoping to get at least another 5/6 episodes of his awesomeness.

Just have him undead living in the prison. Jombie ftw

lol good luck with that

It's the truth fwiw. I think I have always been one of the bookreaders who advocated most strongly for keeping the bookreader's participation in that thread at the zeroth level. I think any good-faith review of my posts in that thread will support that.

Terrific article about the inconsistent accents in the show.

http://gawker.com/what-is-going-on-w...ones-485816507

Can't say I ever noticed, except for the atrocious Carcetti and Tyrion (and suspect no other Real Americans did either) but am curious what you Brits thought about it

I don't really notice. They are casting close enough for it to make sense and you can't go too far trying to get the accents right.

LF is odd for some reason, it sounds more Northern Irish than Dublin to my ear. It is the only one that stands out even though it is presumably more or less his actual accent. As a Dane the Kingslayer is shockingly good.

Honestly I don't know why Tyrion's accent picks up hate, but I have seen it before.