Mark Hamill will reprise his role as The Trickster:

http://comicbook.com/2014/12/08/mark...lay-trickster/

Cocknocker!

The Reverse Flash revealed.



Someone called it earlier in this thread.

but...but...but... he beat himself up?

seems more like wells created it and eddy is the reverse

I couldn't lie to you anymore.

As someone who knows nothing about the comics I thought that was a great episode.

it seems like it has to be a trick though right? like at the very least the fast guy who wells was revealed to be at the end (who was assumed was "bad") is actually the one who was trying to save Barry's mom?

bc Wells spent that entire previous episode making sure that the future- the future in which The Flash was still alive/a hero- remained the same. why do that if he's evil? why help Barry realize his destiny now?

This could be an older version of him that regrets his younger ways. Perhaps he's even trying to train Barry to stop the younger him.

Yes. It is just a matter of speed.

No, I don't agree because Wells had the ring.

Because without The Flash, there is no Reverse-Flash.

See above.

Yea this all seems pretty red herring to me.

I don't think it's as simple as "Wells is RF, came back in time with Barry while fighting and mom got caught in the crossfire" I think there's so much more going on here.

I mean seriously, when you have a TV show whose two main keywords are Time Travel and Comics, they can literally do anything they wanted. And the writers decide to go level 1 with it? Unlikely.

Level 1 would have been they're making Eddie The Reverse-Flash. He does have the right last name, after all. And part of the first at least.

I think RF killing Barry's mom was deliberate and not collateral damage. It started Barry on the road to be The Flash.

I thought that episode was great, I also think Wells' reveal is a red herring, but if it goes either way I'm fine with it.

read the wikis and still don't get this

Eddie being RF is definitely not level 1

Firstly, the amount of avid Flash comic book readers compared to viewers is probably <1%. That being said, Eddie being RF is right away not level 1 to non comic-readers. In this case Wells being RF is pretty level 1

Secondly, just because his name is Eddie Thawne means nothing. I'll refer you to Arrow.

-For the longest time people thought Tommy Merlyn would become the black archer because of his last name. And as it turned out, his father, who at the time we had not put a name to, became the black archer

-Then we have Sarah Lance, who became a version of the Black Canary. Before being introduced to the BC character, the show had already introduced Dinah Lance and Dinah Laurel Lance, both definitely better candidates for BC based entirely on their names.

Thirdly, even IF Eddie is connected to the RF, it's still probably not level 1. The most likely solution is that Eddie is not RF, but is related to him, either as an ancestor or descendent. In fact in order for Eddie to actually be RF, I doubt he already is. Most likely he becomes RF, and for that to happen a few things need to happen in succession:

-Eddie needs to keep chasing the Flash with no success, building frustration that leads almost to insanity.
-Eddie needs to discover Flash's identity and probably have his relationship die in the process.
-Eddie needs to gain some connection to the Speed Force

TLDR this show is not going to be level 1, or even level 2. I'm willing to bet what actually ends up happening probably hasn't even been theorized about

Can your reflection exist if you aren't standing in front of a mirror?

I just had a thought. What if RF is a combination of a number of people with those parts being housed in one body (specifically Eddie)? The speed comes from Barry sucked out of him by using the powers of the energy vampire with the red eyes of RF coming from RF having some of the powers of the Rainbow Raider.

With Wells being the puppet master who put together the whole package.

Pretty out there but I like the way we're thinking now. Certainly more plausible imo than the lolsimple Wells=RF theories

umm.. what?

I like your thinking. My certainty toward Eddie has dropped from 85% to 61%. I also think what ends up happening has not yet been decided. I have a high expectation of disappointment whatever it is though.

I agree.

It's a strong possibility the writers don't even know what they're going to do yet

I liked the episode.

Finally Barry grew a pair and told Iris that he loves her. I approve of this.

geez doc stop making me want to read comics so much. My kid is just learning to read i still have a while to wait before i get into those with him.

From wiki i thought that reverse characters were just unoriginal villains with the same power naming themselves reverse

wait, what? That actor that is playing iris boyfriend? is it that eddie youre talking about? seen all 9 eps and havent even gotten around to give him a name other than annoying sideplot for awkward triangle romance.

sure hope he isnt RF


great episode though, and +1000 on everyone commenting on barry admitting his love, so refreshing not seeing the lana lang crap again

^ This is why Eddie becoming RF is not level 1

Most people haven't the slightest clue of who he is.

On a related Eddie side note, when I first saw an Amell in the credits, I was so sure for the first few episodes that it was Eddie. Looks just like Stephen Amell, same facial structure, similar voice. Was shocked to find out it was Robbie. Still looks like an Amell, but not as much as Eddie imo