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01-26-2015 , 11:46 AM
Ya , can't believe some levels of nitpicking , don't want to mention any names.

I think those people who've read comic books before are a lot more tolerant of any "holes" other's perceive and complain about.

Last ep. was amazing imo.

As far as bad acting between the Prison Break brothers .. I thought they were fine.
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01-26-2015 , 01:50 PM
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I think you need to suspend disbelief when watching any show based on a comic, however my main gripe with the show is not at the scientific level. You would think that a very intelligent person such as Barry could think of a better way of handling all these villains. The way some things are done are fine but with Captain Cold he simply has an ice gun. It's hard to believe that a guy with a gun can shoot someone who is running a few hundred miles per hour.

I have never read the comics so I do not know any back story, but could they have made the Flash run slower around the ice? Maybe give Cold an ice aura type of effect so Barry cannot get close to him without slowing down? I think it's common in fantasy for extreme colds to slow down people so I would have an easier time believing the Flash cannot run as fast if he gets close to him. If they made it so that he was not able to just run up and punch the guy then I think him getting shot with both guns to "cross the streams" would be easier to swallow.

Just my thoughts. I'm still going to watch the show as I am enjoying it.
This is all nit tarding and if you could take it somewhere else then that would be great.
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01-26-2015 , 03:18 PM
Where would you suggest him to take it, the True Detective thread? If you're getting that butthurt and cba to engage in a debate, how about you just ignore him?
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01-26-2015 , 03:34 PM
i am not a nit, but i find it overwhelmingly annoying that he just cant run up and just punch the dude when he clearly can do **** in superspeed on a microlevel(as packing up 10,000 items into moving boxes in 2 seconds) and stuff like that.

The whole cross the beams were dumb, that is not nitpicking, alot of fights so far have been "okay" , for example; the tornado guy fight, he protected himself with a tornado or superstrong/immortal dude. Compare these to captain cold and his sidekick and you feel how stupid it is. The copyvillain was okay aswell, as he just multiplied into infinity. Lots of villains have been okay and have some sort of a counter to superspeed....although that makes for a repetitive storyarc every ep. lose a fight, recouperate and figure out how to beat them but that is still miles better than 2 ordinary prisonbreak dudes with toyguns. He have only fought another ordinary human and it was arrow fight he had to use traps and tactic (massive overflated ego @ barry) to put up a fight.
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01-26-2015 , 04:05 PM
im a big advocate of closing your brain to watch tv but this captain cold thing is a step too far.

It was more hardcore dumb than 7 seasons of 2 hours shows of 100% skyler white
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01-26-2015 , 04:24 PM
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then why no question mark? why no "does anyone know what that means?"

he was clearly just quoting the line
Maybe he hit submit too quickly or his computer ****ed up.
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01-26-2015 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Baobhan-Sith
Where would you suggest him to take it, the True Detective thread? If you're getting that butthurt and cba to engage in a debate, how about you just ignore him?
Nope.

Not going to let nit tarding ruin another thread I enjoy. War has been declared and I will answer the call to arms.
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01-27-2015 , 12:03 AM
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Nope.

Not going to let nit tarding ruin another thread I enjoy. War has been declared and I will answer the call to arms.
:: applause ::
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01-27-2015 , 12:54 PM
The problem with Flash will be the same as with Superman. The longer you put off power creep the better, but the first time he punched a guy when moving super fast it set a clock on how long you can ignore that he didn't do it ever again. If you can't overlook stuff then the show is already dead for you, you probably just haven't realised it yet.
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01-27-2015 , 01:06 PM
Just like Thor in the Avengers. "Gee, lighting up that portal really did a number on those aliens. I better not do that again"
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01-27-2015 , 03:45 PM
Truth is if they depicted the Flash as strong as he was in the comics , and remember .. he's just developing his skills .. he would have beaten Cold and Heatwave fairly quickly.

Mild spoiler alert from comics just to give you an idea how strong the Flash can be , they had to tone him down. Nothing too specific that should ruin much for anyone but gives you an idea why they need to tone down the Flash's strength and abilities now.

Spoiler:
In the comics "The Rogues" which consist of Capt. Cold and Heatwave also comprise at least 3 other members if my memory serves me correctly , possibly a 4th. They literally have to team up just to give the Flash a real challenge. 5 super villains , some way more powerful than Cold and Heatwave.
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01-27-2015 , 03:57 PM
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Truth is if they depicted the Flash as strong as he was in the comics , and remember .. he's just developing his skills .. he would have beaten Cold and Heatwave fairly quickly.
cracks me up when people come in and post something like this. Like have u even read anything in here? Literally everything everyone is talking about is how Flash's powers are nerfed and the fight with the Rogues is unrealistic
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01-27-2015 , 05:13 PM
Super-speed is generally nerfed in comics too. At least when Wally became Flash in the comics it was a very deliberate and thought out nerf. But power creep is inevitable. In order to maintain dramatic tension you need to introduce greater and greater threads (particularly if you're a lazy writer). Which means heroes need to perform greater and greater feats.
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01-28-2015 , 03:45 AM
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cracks me up when people come in and post something like this. Like have u even read anything in here? Literally everything everyone is talking about is how Flash's powers are nerfed and the fight with the Rogues is unrealistic
Uh... seems like they're complaining about it when it's completely normal for a TV version of the books and I disagree. If you agree with me , why the comment ?

If you'd rather see the Flash beat everyone up in seconds that's fine with me if you consider it more realistic or like/dislike the nerfing which I don't even know.

Make a point in your post. No clue what you're trying to say.
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01-28-2015 , 09:17 AM
good ep imo
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01-28-2015 , 09:46 AM
well today he learned to disarm quickly!
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01-28-2015 , 03:06 PM
The thing I found interesting is we saw Wells in possession of the yellow costume, which I thought gave us more questions than answers. Then it seems like they immediately confirm he's Reverse Flash by having him zipping around in this episode. I thought there would be a slower burn with some doubt before we got that.
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01-28-2015 , 03:32 PM
I think the slow burn will be that there's more to this story. I think it's highly unlikely that Wells = RF = Big Baddie and that's it. I think that either there are 1 or more additional RF's that pose a threat to one or both of wells, or there are bigger baddies at play, or some crazy intertwining time traveling going on
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01-28-2015 , 09:25 PM
HEY. I assign the nicknames around here.
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01-28-2015 , 09:42 PM
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HEY. I assign the nicknames around here.
Around here, we choose our own. Although, we generally don't get to select our custom undertitle.
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02-10-2015 , 11:04 PM
meh
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02-11-2015 , 04:06 AM
I thought it was good. I'm guessing what happened was predicted by fans of the comic?
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02-11-2015 , 10:23 AM
Wow I might have been right in the first place and Wells might actually be future Barry.

inb4 "omfg Barry doesn't kill people" and omfg "Wells isn't Barry"

until it's proven 100% fact in the show that he isn't, anything is possible
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02-11-2015 , 11:41 AM
nice twist at the end- but am i the only one who when watching this ep is kinda just counting the minutes til it's over? i know arrow was kinda avg the 1st ~half of s1, but at least that show always had hope bc of its enormous universe and mythology- there were just so many places it could go plot-wise. this show seems so reliant on the Wells mystery stuff which kind of has me bearish on it ever getting too much better.

ftr i've never read either comic so i'm very open to being wrong.
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02-11-2015 , 11:59 AM
I'm the opposite. I agree Arrow was slow season 1 but I think Flash S1 has been great. Aside from the obvious lolscience (i.e this episode where Cisco was snowballing fake science to get a 3d image of what happened) there has been a lot to keep you interested.

-The fact that the showrunners are very obviously feeding us the "Wells=RF and that's it" story very clearly indicates that there is much more going on, and will make for huge revealaments

-The development of the General, and what he's up to, who he's working with/for etc.

-Importance of side characters like Cisco/Caitlin and if/when they will get powers, Eddie and if/when he will become a speedster, Joe/Father Allen and if/when they will be killed off, Firestorm and if/when he will join the team

-Gorilla Grodd. Nuff said
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