It's pretty obvious she is.

dexter is amazing, four of four stars. The show paved the way for AMC's breaking bad

without Dexter I don't think there would be a Breaking Bad

You sure about that?

Michael C Hall directed ep 2 of the current season, I thought it brought a unique perspective to the table, everyone is entitled to an opinion on a TV show tho


I do agree certain parts of the show are bad, like the guy from the Boondock saints acting skills this current season, also i have never been a huge fan of Deb. But the show has not lost its ability to interest me thru the years. Season 4 with Jon Lithgow as the Trinity Killer was my pick for best season so far

Anyways Dexter was a show where a bad guy is the protagonist. Prior to Dexter, mainstream t.v catered to standard shows like Seinfeld and Law and Order, you would not see a show like Dexter during the 80s or 90's. At least one that would last 8 years with a similar plot and genre. Dexter was a first of its kind show IMO. We see a character with many flaws who commits crimes and is still the hero of the show. Breaking Bad on AMC is has a similar plot. I couldnt see Breaking Bad getting the same ratings or even being around w/o Dexter

Lol. You are wrong.

Sopranos.

Sopranos was about a guy in the mafia, Dexter is about a man working for the police force. But you are right about there being shows that existed in a similar genre to Dexter.

Only if 'paved the way' means 'is a TV show that started airing first'.

Dexter hasn't been four out of four stars (who the **** grades on a four-star scale?) since season four at the absolute latest. It blows my mind that some people don't see the huge chasm of quality between the first four seasons and the rest, and the obvious link between that chasm and the departure of the showrunner and head writer at the end of season four. I more or less consider it two different shows, running for four seasons each.

If you continue to watch and enjoy the show, that's fine. If you do so and haven't noticed a huge decline in quality, however, it basically means you weren't paying enough attention to really recognise why the show was good in the first place, and you more or less don't like it for any reason other than it's a show about a serial killer and ZOMG YOU GUYZ IT'S SO DARK AND INTERESTING. Which is also fine on some level, but it does mean you shouldn't go around making sweeping statements about other shows it 'paved the way for'.

The face Dexter made when he saw the finger solidifies writers haven't watched the first few seasons. Lock on season being horrible. Go ahead and tell us why it's actually great though OOTV psychologists.

Yeah, this is exactly it. Why would a guy who spent years dismembering corpses and disposing of them in garbage bags recoil at the sight of a finger in a stew? Sure, he'd be surprised, but not disgusted.

The writers have clearly, over the course of four years, forgotten that they're writing a guy who enjoys brutally murdering people.

It is such an absurd position to think Dexter paved the way for Breaking Bad I'm pretty sure this guy is trolling.

Since when did ***** peptobismol fix a FULL stomach?

I dont recall icicles giving you stomach burns.

TWD writers moved to dexter during their vacations?

I think that's a good point. There is definitely somewhat of a bandwagon effect when it comes to criticizing any show. Who wants to look like a simpleton unable to spot plot holes from a mile away? I'm not saying that Dexter hasn't gotten worse, it definitely has nosedived, but these kinds of threads can easily become echo chambers once they go negative.

The first thing Vogel said when she told Dexter she knows about his secret was, "you can't kill me. I don't fit Harry's code."

The first thing she asks Dexter when she finds out that Deb knows Dexter's secret is, "why didn't you kill her. I made 'don't get caught' rule number 1 for a reason."

had to go back to verify this and I was laughing for a good minute.

Yeah, this is actually pretty ludicrous. By that logic, Dex should have snap killed Vogel as soon as he found out that she knew about him.

It's pretty obvious that she is not.

There aren't any other women on the show old enough to be her mom.

That might be because her mom died from cancer when she was 12.

Maybe she did and maybe she didn't. Did we ever see her body?

Dexter is 7 years older than Deb. While I think it's pretty far fetched to think a then 12 year old girl wouldn't, 22 years later, recognize her English born, English accent speaking mother (which her real mother wasn't, but Vogel is), I think it is more than a stretch to believe that then 19 year old Dexter wouldn't recognize the woman that raised him.

So no, Vogel is not Deb's mother and Dexter's foster mother.

Deb's boss almost certainly has to be the killer. He has to serve some purpose since he is getting so much screen time and there is no other unknown.

He could very well serve as the third piece in a pointless love-triangle between him, Deb and Quinn that nobody will care about.

Both options are possible, equally so, and both would be equally terrible if true. Sigh.

his hair's too nice to be anything but a killer