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Dexter: season 5 Dexter: season 5

12-13-2010 , 05:39 AM
Complete ****ing joke:

Oh, nowww you notice Dexter, that Lumen isn't right for you, after you risked your life for this woman and nearly got yourself killed, and not before you had to train her in crime scene disposal, using a knife, or the rudiments of fighting after noticing she's utterly unable to overpower any one of her "victims". Way to be a pussy and acquiesce to the fact that an ungrateful woman straight up punked you with her vagina, too.

Oh, and, Quinn, real nice of you to let all that history go along with your critical thinking skills. After all, what do you care about the mysteriousness of a man murdered in a locked van, when any sensible person knowing what you know should have a strong suspicion of who had the motive to kill Liddy: Dexter, the man he was surveilling, who he found doing something "unbelievable". And boy, it's great you've found love in maybe the space of a couple of weeks and are willing to sacrifice for that love to the tune of MURDER ONE and TWENTY FIVE TO ****ING LIFE.
12-13-2010 , 05:39 AM
Man, I thought for sure Deb or someone would find those pics in Quinn's apartment or they would figure out Lumen was 13 and then Deb would make the connection because she saw them together.

Can't believe I stayed up to watch this POS.
12-13-2010 , 05:40 AM
Made me cringe when Deb walks into the interrogation room with Quinn and the camera is sticking out of the wall with a glaring blinking red light with an on/off switch on its backside. Like really?

And Quinn getting off because the blood didn't match is just unforgivable.
12-13-2010 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by burkoboy
masuka's girl A++
Seriously, the ASS on that chick...that was way better than anything else in this ep

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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Although if this season ends with everything wrapped up neatly with a nice little ribbon and there isn't a sick cliffhanger like Deb finding out what Dexter does through her investigation, this whole season will have been for nothing imo.
FFFFFFUUUUUUU WRITERS
12-13-2010 , 05:42 AM
Rewatched S1 and S2 past couple of weeks. So better than the other seasons. S2 = S1 > S3, barely better than S4 >>> S5.

Writers, no more car wrecks. Hoping for a better S6 with cat and mouse serial killer game.
12-13-2010 , 05:46 AM
Jordan Chase also nominated himself for Worst Serial Killer of the year by talking endlessly about basically nothing, not killing Dexter right when he had him right in his sights after a car crash, and then of course turning his back completely on his victims -- probably because he can't tie a knot for ****.
12-13-2010 , 05:48 AM
JC must be a fast runner/have amazing hearing to be right on top of Dexter like that

In the back of my mind I was hoping they'd get a search warrant for Quinn's apartment while he was in custody and Deb would find the pictures =[

As soon as Deb started her stupid speech at the camp it was obv she was going to let them go

Thought this ep was pretty terrible overall
12-13-2010 , 05:58 AM
Women don't speak like how Lumen did at the death scene. It was so unnatural it made cringe appreciating its cornyness. Look, I know the sexes overlap on lots of things: some girls like math, some guys like playing house. But if there's one thing that males do the exclusion of women, it's the sort of violent rages that we are supposedly to believe culminated in Lumen killing Jordan Chase. Here are the stats: Men commit something like 83% of all violent acts. Of the few violent acts women commit, they are almost invariably in response to violent acts of men: protecting themselves against battery on scene, other men threatening their children. Of the vanishingly small percentage of those women who kill purely of their own volition, their preferred method is overwhelmingly poison -- it's non-confrontational and non-violent. (You see the same pattern in suicide; men like guns, knives and hangings, women like barbiturates and plastic bags. It would make sense for example, for Lumen to kill Jordan with an overdose of that MD-99 [?] stuff that Dexter carries.)

For Lumen to just up and grab a knife, speaking like a psycho "you're not allowed to say my name", and stab him was just completely unbelievable. I'm sure that scene felt contrived to other people than me. Women just aren't like that.

Last edited by ConstantineX; 12-13-2010 at 06:03 AM.
12-13-2010 , 06:06 AM
well, Lumen killing the same guy that assisted her rape/beating/attempted murder + her relationship with Dexter and how he changed her is enough to justify the psycho-rage for me
12-13-2010 , 06:10 AM
It's also weird how Lumen and Dexter relate to each other over the "Dark Passenger" as if they were performing a routine hobby together, like hiking or going out to the theater.

"I'm sorry honey, but the magic just isn't the same anymore, serial murder with you used to be so much fun, and now it feels like a total drag. I think we lost something, we should break up." You'd think that a relationship would be forged stronger than that, that the murdering together would REQUIRE the love first, rather than the other way 'round as it seems to be with this silly airhead Lumen.
12-13-2010 , 06:10 AM
but she didn't sleep the night before!
12-13-2010 , 06:21 AM
i'd love to watch an interview with the writers. i kind of want to give them the benefit of the doubt and think that they assumed this was last season and had different plans for it to end. now they had to do filler episodes and push their plans back to season 6
12-13-2010 , 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MaliceUW
JC must be a fast runner/have amazing hearing to be right on top of Dexter like that

In the back of my mind I was hoping they'd get a search warrant for Quinn's apartment while he was in custody and Deb would find the pictures =[

As soon as Deb started her stupid speech at the camp it was obv she was going to let them go

Thought this ep was pretty terrible overall
The digger was moved as a trap. It was intentional and he was waiting for Dexter to turn up.
12-13-2010 , 06:30 AM
obviously this season and finale was **** but i disagree that "everything" is resolved.

very weird that there weren't any tease tho. I guess they'll keep that for trailers but that's kind of ******ed iyam
12-13-2010 , 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
The digger was moved as a trap. It was intentional and he was waiting for Dexter to turn up.
oooo, that's better, I thought Dexter got distracted for a sec and just hit it, and somehow JC was right on it haha
12-13-2010 , 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by exoendo
3 is your second favorite? O______O
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Originally Posted by milesdyson
yeah "2>3>1>4>5" is laughable.

thought the finale was decent for what story was left to tell given there will be at least another season. overall i guess it was on par with season 3. the beginning of this one was just so bad. so much time spent on weird stuff and little in the way of logical transition from season 4. a lot of people in last season's thread made lists of things that would have to be addressed, and much of it was ignored.

a few of the kills (or at least what should be genuinely suspenseful scenes) were pretty meh this season too. liddy just pulls a knife out on his only chance to get his job back, but of course dexter dexters the situation despite being tied up. then tonight the chase pursuit wasn't suspenseful enough so the kids showed up at an inopportune time and dexter gets in his 10th accident, only to somehow secure a knife and escape again (had similar feelings season 3 when he escaped the table and ran out of the warehouse in daylight with cops arriving). dexter gonna dexter. i get that it takes a very talented and creative writing team to come up with stuff that works, but a lot of this just feels so contrived. i seriously doubt season 6 will be at this level.
Fwiw 1 3 and 4 are insanely close and could probably be changed around to fit different moods.
I just like 3 . I think it has the best pay off in the series(ep 9, 10 and 11) and the start is far worse than people make out to be. It's the only series where my opionion is weird like that. I have a pretty normal ranking of the wire seasons (3>4>2>1>5).

Still very disappointed in this Season but mostly in the writing staff and Michael C Hall. I thought they would not let Dexter have a season like this. Guess they smelled money and this was their filler season? Nothing wrong with that, just a disappointment for the viewers .
12-13-2010 , 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodGame
i'd love to watch an interview with the writers. i kind of want to give them the benefit of the doubt and think that they assumed this was last season and had different plans for it to end. now they had to do filler episodes and push their plans back to season 6

This!


I also wonder if Hall's health had anything to do with this season. Didn't I read somewhere he had cancer recently. What's the latest with that?

Season 5 was definitley a let down, but sadly there aren't many shows on TV right now that are better. I will still tune in next season.
12-13-2010 , 07:28 AM
wow there were so many was this finale could go and they choose the most boring unimaginative way possible.

this has to be the only time ive ever felt let down by dexter


fwiw 4>1>2>>>3>>5
12-13-2010 , 07:42 AM
1>2>4>>3>>>5. If you disagree, you're wrong.
12-13-2010 , 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jh12547
This!


I also wonder if Hall's health had anything to do with this season. Didn't I read somewhere he had cancer recently. What's the latest with that?

Season 5 was definitley a let down, but sadly there aren't many shows on TV right now that are better. I will still tune in next season.
It was Hodgkin's Lymphoma, very treatable and he was given the all clear before filming started. That said his dad died of cancer so it was probably a huge head ****, but i dont think MCH's acting was bad this year so i wouldnt attribute anything to that. Im sure he has a lot of creative influence but he is still "just" the actor and not a showrunner or writer.

I think the show is getting to the point they are running out of ideas. With a good ending this would have probably beaten 3 but the payoff just wasnt there. They need to either go back to a big bad scenario where there is a huge mystery to the main bad guy killer or they need to move towards him being in serious danger of being caught. That is what made 1 and 2 so great and 4 really entertaining. 3 and 5 just missed the mark.

I disagree that the show has nowhere to go other than to end it, but they need to pull off a good story next year and get back on track. They still have a great character and they still have a great actor portraying him, they just need to seriously raise the game with the B stories and pull off a solid if not spectacular A story.
12-13-2010 , 09:31 AM
I actually feel embarrassed for the people involved in this show now..I mean they must realize they went from working on one of the best shows ever to something that is just horrible television.
The more you think about this season the worse it gets..
Hall and Carpenter must joke with each other at home with how ****ing terrible that scene was with the plastic.

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12-13-2010 , 09:51 AM
This was such a terrible season with such a weak finale.

Things that annoyed me about the finale:
- How the non-matchingblood got quinn to walk.
- The car-theft and then crash
- How Jordan Chase did not succeed in killing dexter/lumen
- The giganticly gay way deb did not see dexter
- So Deb fired her gun at the crimescene, I'm sure they're never going to mention that.
- How the car stolen at where the policeinvestigation was turned up near the camp
- etc


I think the most dissapointing thing was the long expected reveal of deb finding out about Dexter didn't happen.
12-13-2010 , 10:17 AM
I demand a refund.
12-13-2010 , 10:49 AM
Maybe I have to rewatch, but did noone else get the impression Deb knows it's Dexter? I kinda suspected she might know when she first talked to Dexter but then, at the very end, she said something like, "You must be glad it's all over". Seems like she knows, I dunno.

Even with that "cliffhanger" it was a pretty weak finale/season. I think I go 1=2>4>3>>>5.
12-13-2010 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigfoot
Wow I disagree completely with this ranking. Season 5 was just terrible. I can see people arguing about the ranking of the other 4, but 5 is easily the worst. People have already pointed out numerous problems with it, but I can't see how you could possibly think it was better than both season 2 and 3.
2 is just the most overrated season by a long shot. People just forget how "neatly" everything was wrapped up in that one. Paul easily being framed and then conveniently being killed in jail. Lila starting some stupid house fire and dexter cheesily jumping through a wall with astor and cody in arms, lila convientantly stumbling upon doakes and cartoonishly blowing him up, and then dexter flies to paris in the last 2 minutes of the season and just quickly knifes lila, the big bad, without so much as a conversation.

Season 3 is lol if you think it's better than season 5.

      
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