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Dexter: season 5 Dexter: season 5

12-14-2010 , 10:45 AM
this thread...yikes

anyway, season 3 was in no way worse than this one.

and anyone who thought dexter was going to kill lumen in the kitchen... yikes again
12-14-2010 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by obi1jabroni
Dexter executive producer answers some questions on S5 and upcoming seasons: http://www.tvguide.com/News/Dexter-F...b&profileid=01

"TVGuide.com: How much longer can you continue to let Deb almost find out?
Colleton: I can tell you this: This is the last time we will dangle that. "
tbh I like this season more after reading this interview
12-14-2010 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by nutshot2
this thread...yikes

anyway, season 3 was in no way worse than this one.

and anyone who thought dexter was going to kill lumen in the kitchen... yikes again

he's a serial killer who's main goal is to stay out of jail. this girl is a huge risk to him. she knows who he his. she's a woman, who knows how she will deal with all the murdering. is it possible that a year from now the guilt is too much and she goes to the police and confesses everything?

now it's not LIKELY, but it's at least possible. And Dexter has motive to not get caught, and when she breaks up with him, she goes from being his love life to a giant problem. Sure he can just trust her and let her go, but if he killed her, it's one less loose end.


all that said I didn't expect him to do it, but it would be awesome, and not out of character. Remember the last time he felt that white hot emotion? someone ate the wrong end of an anchor. not completely unplausible that the same reaction would be had when a girl he opens up to is breaking up with him, esp since it's such a big relationship for him. I mean, if normal joe's freak out on girls imagine what a stone cold murderer could do.



after a nights sleep, I'm still dissappointed by the finale. It's just sloppy writing. If season 6 opens up and never mentions Liddy's murder or Quinn's involvement or the Quinn knows/Dex knows/quinn knows angle isn't pursued, then I will view season 5 as a waste of my time.

It's just mind boggling how badly the whole Liddy/q/d was wrapped up. It's a murdered cop for ****s sake, they are not just going to gloss over the fact that he got murdered in their own backyard.

and the way quinn was acting makes in likely he knows whats going on, and then they see a random spot of blood that could have been when he cut his hand on his car door, since it's not liddy's that means he's cleared?

really, the phone calls, the MISSING surveillance equipment, the fingerprints, the way he was acting strange. I'm not even a detective and even I know that's something you have to follow up on. There's a dead cop and this other cop knows something about it, butnah, here a pretty little bow and everyone is happy.



to those that think that Deb knows, you are ******ed. It's one thing to let two randoms go that are killing Jordan, but there would be a little more emotion/reaction if she found out that is was Dexter behind the curtain. This is why they SHOULD have done it. They have professional writers, they could figure out a way to make it work.
12-14-2010 , 11:51 AM
He wasn't a cop anymore.
12-14-2010 , 11:52 AM
miles:

before season 5, in s1-4, deb's character would NOT have let any bad guys go, she's a cop, its not her job to figure that out.


the only reason in s5 you say her character might is because they wrote in like 3-4 scenes saying she would be ok with some bad guys dying. they did this so they could have this scene in the finale.

my problem is changing a character in the early part of a season so they can make it more plausible that she would act that way in the last episode, even when that decision is one she is very unlikely to make.


my g/f said she hoped deb found out and then her and dex would be like lu/dex this year and take bad guys out. I told her that deb isn't like that, she's a cop, and her code wouldn't be able to handle that.

the writers ALMOST got it right, during her speech about i know what you are doing and i know what happened to you, lu/dex started to move and she took a shot and said FREEZE BITCHES.

THAT'S what would happen in a non fantasy world, even in a tv show, in a show that was well written and consistent. Deb would WANT to let them go but at her core she's a cop, like dex is a killer. She would want to let them go but she would not have. She would have called for backup, moved past the screen, saw it was dexter.


At that point, who knows what she would have done. she might let them leave at that point, but tha'ts because it's her brother, not some random killers.

there is 0 evidence deb knows, and some off the cuff remark about it being over doesn't mean she knows dex/lu were killing people.
12-14-2010 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Omar Comin
He wasn't a cop anymore.
seriously?

so guys that are honorable discharged from the core aren't marines anymore? and if that guy died, other marines wouldn't feel sad that he died?


I mean, this comment is beyond absurd. Even though Liddy was dirty, and he was no longer working as a cop, I'm sure every cop in Miami, when they found out he was murdered, was thinking this:


****, a cop just got murdered

and not

****, some guy that used to be a cop but isn't anymore because he's dirty got murdered


http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?ui...6304&topic=166
12-14-2010 , 11:59 AM
He was dirty, he didn't get kicked out because he stood up for what was right or anything like that. He was just greedy, you don't think he'd get treated differently than other cops?
12-14-2010 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TheHip41
he's a serial killer who's main goal is to stay out of jail. this girl is a huge risk to him. she knows who he his. she's a woman, who knows how she will deal with all the murdering. is it possible that a year from now the guilt is too much and she goes to the police and confesses everything?

now it's not LIKELY, but it's at least possible. And Dexter has motive to not get caught, and when she breaks up with him, she goes from being his love life to a giant problem. Sure he can just trust her and let her go, but if he killed her, it's one less loose end.
Watch the dialogue with Astor and his inner monologue afterwards...(should have been obvious from throughout the season)
no way he could have murdered Lumen, because it makes no sense. do you think his emotion could ever drive him to kill Deb? Rita? Cody/astor? Harrison?




after a nights sleep, I'm still dissappointed by the finale. It's just sloppy writing. If season 6 opens up and never mentions Liddy's murder or Quinn's involvement or the Quinn knows/Dex knows/quinn knows angle isn't pursued, then I will view season 5 as a waste of my time.

they will obviously have to follow that angle, or the series is pretty much over for everyone with some taste.


to those that think that Deb knows, you are ******ed. It's one thing to let two randoms go that are killing Jordan, but there would be a little more emotion/reaction if she found out that is was Dexter behind the curtain. This is why they SHOULD have done it. They have professional writers, they could figure out a way to make it work.

I tend to agree, but how do you explain her final line of this season, then? Since this was the season of not explaining ****, maybe she had an off-screen revelation. Would be lame, but whatev.
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12-14-2010 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Omar Comin
He was dirty, he didn't get kicked out because he stood up for what was right or anything like that. He was just greedy, you don't think he'd get treated differently than other cops?
i absolutely do think he WOULD get treated differently. Like if they saw him at the bar or in the street, etc. I agree with that.

That all changes when that cop gets murdered. All that doesn't matter anymore because it turns into

"on of ours was murdered"
12-14-2010 , 12:05 PM
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I tend to agree, but how do you explain her final line of this season, then? Since this was the season of not explaining ****, maybe she had an off-screen revelation. Would be lame, but whatev

i chalk it up to the writers throwing a line in there to make us wonder if deb knows.

these same writers also came up with the quinn/liddy storyline conclusion


so yes that's what the writers want us to think, but in reality, Deb hasn't figured it out. and if she did, I doubt she would be like "hey dex waz up"


also, how are we to know what a sociopath serial killer will do. sociopaths care about themselves. when lumen leaves and is breaking down dex's little construct he might lash out. she is no longer needed in his life, and once she isn't his girlfriend she becomes a loose end.

so no it's not likely, but Dexter isn't a normal guy, so maybe he would kill her, not from rage, but from a sense of:

1. i don't need you and you are a loose end
2. you broke my heart after i finally opened up to someone


now, this whole idea is way out there and Im not saying dex wanted to kill her, or it's even likely, i'm just saying given dex is a sociopath who knows what he could do.

it was more me WANTING him to kill her with pieces of a plate
12-14-2010 , 12:27 PM
Regarding Dex in the kitchen with Lumen at the end, for a split second I thought they were going to go for something shocking and have Dex go full nutjob all over Lumen. His acting was pretty good during this and he seriously looked like he was losing it. That would totally violate what Dex is supposed to be about though.
12-14-2010 , 01:02 PM
such a spectacularly bad finale
12-14-2010 , 02:13 PM
12-14-2010 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by darthtrader3.6
Same here..the straw that broke the camels back for me was "is that blood on your shoe?"
I mean really??? That was so bad I still can't process it.
Yep, 'Eagle Eye' Laguerta there spotting a speck of a blood on the side of a shoe which is around 6 ft directly below her.

This, plus the 'let's forget about the bullet Deb fired at the camp' fiasco, made this finale fail.

As for the season rankings: 1=4>2>>3>>>>>5
12-14-2010 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DontWakeDaddy
That may be a scene from Season 3, but if not definitely Season 5. It is not a coming attraction.
12-14-2010 , 03:07 PM
How come people are saying breaking bad has surpassed dexter. I like breaking bad a lot but final season was so boring.

You guys are way too nerdy with Tvshows. What about this and that, you dont have to put everything on screen to make it believable. She might or might not went and took bullet out etc. Jordan is still missing as you remember and no cops on scene.

Its a interesting shows to make you forget anything irl.
12-14-2010 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Krahv
How come people are saying breaking bad has surpassed dexter. I like breaking bad a lot but final season was so boring.
incredible.
12-14-2010 , 03:20 PM
lol

breaking bad has always been better than dexter

its just clearer now
12-14-2010 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Krahv
How come people are saying breaking bad has surpassed dexter. I like breaking bad a lot but final season was so boring.
12-14-2010 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Krahv
How come people are saying breaking bad has surpassed dexter. I like breaking bad a lot but final season was so boring.

You guys are way too nerdy with Tvshows. What about this and that, you dont have to put everything on screen to make it believable. She might or might not went and took bullet out etc. Jordan is still missing as you remember and no cops on scene.

Its a interesting shows to make you forget anything irl.
except for the fact there would be a bullet hole in the wall that the cops will find.

plus Deb is going to have to explain where the bullet she fired is, since her gun will be missing a bullet


and yes it needs to be plausible. sure its a tv show, but good tv shows balance the fantasy that are the characters and the world with a plausibility that you or I could be living in that world.

Sopranos are an example of this.


but yeah, it's completely implausible that Quinn gets off and nothing is ever mentioned again
12-14-2010 , 03:48 PM
Final Season boring? You could make the case for one episode being boring but I loved that one actually.

Almost every other episode reached a level of tension Dexter achieves once a season in SOME of its seasons.
12-14-2010 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bbfg
Final Season boring? You could make the case for one episode being boring but I loved that one actually.

Almost every other episode reached a level of tension Dexter achieves once a season in SOME of its seasons.
that tension was reached by deb almost finding them. but they just ****ed with us.
12-14-2010 , 04:07 PM
it was obvious as soon as there was a veil that nothing would happen :/
12-14-2010 , 04:10 PM
Sorry if this has been mentioned...but when they found the cop in the van, what happened to the video camera (that he was using to film Dexter "confess")? Shouldn't this be in evidence? How have they not looked at it?
12-14-2010 , 04:14 PM
dexter took that

      
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