I didn't really like this season much at all, but I thought the finale was very good.

I hated what they did with Chase. I thought he was going to be good villain, but it seemed they just turned him into an idiot the last 2 episodes. I mean his plan was to go hide out at camp and hope Dexter somehow finds it and then hide out and hope he wrecks his car on the backhoe? gmafb.

There are filler episodes and then there are... filler seasons.
Just utterly terrible season. I was hushing the complainers after the first 2-3 episodes, expecting it to pay off towards the end. No redemption. I won't be re-watching this. Kind of blessing in way, though, it was so bad and so little worthwhile happened that one can safely just skip this season.

Got to rewatch s1 and s2 at some point because my memory of s1 in particular is very faint, but I rank them 2=1>>4>>>3>>>>5.

Re: Deb knowing Dexter's involvement. Upon first watch I was sure she didn't know anything, but after the comments here I rewatched the two key scenes again (Deb's comments). She is kind of enigmatic and has this weird look and face. About it "being all over now", perhaps she assumes that Dex was only helping Lumen (or whoever she suspected #13 to be) in this project but now that all the men involved in the barrel murders are dead (missing), she assumes that there's no killing left to be done for Dexter and she's therefore letting it slide. It was extremely subtle though.

Quinn's case is sketchy but I guess there's no way Quinn doesn't know about Dex, at least now that he falsely cleared Quinn's bloodwork even though Dex hates him. Dex probably realized that Quinn was sure about Dexter only after Liddy's death (Quinn still has circumstantial evidence at best against Dexter) and now he bought Quinn's silence by clearing him off Liddy's murder (which, as stated, was ridiculous). Btw. wouldn't Quinn's bloodwork in reality have been done by some other people than his own colleague because of conflict of interest? Just so much wrong in the finale, let alone the whole season.

But the good thing is that now that Lumen is gone and everything is more or less the same as when the season started, s6 has an easy task on improving from this season.

i really thought dexter was gonna kill lumen in the apartment after she dumped him and he was sitting with all the broken shards of the plate he broke...

i dont really feel like deb knows, but quinn does...

does anyone have a final say on the conversation between Dexter and Quinn at the party? there are a couple different versions in this thread...

There is nothing to be excited about for next season. This only things this WHOLE season has accomplished is Deb almost found out about Dexter, might being to become suspicious (which was last season's thing too, by the way.) and Quinn basically knows about Dexter.

Everything else, was complete filler. Oh how convenient, Lumen decides she wants to leave after this year. Shocker. Alot of the stories this year was useless filler that won't take the story anywhere.

Sorry bro, its gotta be 4 1 2 3 5 like the above poster.

4, 1, 2 are all REALLY close. I might actually like 1 and 2 better if I saw them sooner... biggest thing I hated about 4 was how they offed Rita at the end. I loved her in a way only a man can love a fictional TV woman =(

i liked Jordan Chase and crew more than Miguel Prado, but i dont think i can put this season above anyother b/c they didnt get enough of the storyline and Lumen was crap.

lol the sopranos ending was awesome

l2tv imo

"There she is, the detective who solved the barrel girls case!" Claps...


Did I miss something? How did she solve the case?

I was actually surprised Dexter didn't leave the body so Deborah's unlikely vigilante and accomplice theory could look more possible than it must seem to the boss.

Santa Muerte plot tho.

man, dexter heals so fast, car crash one day, no scratches the next!

any chance quinn finds out more about dexter and starts to cover/work with him indirectly? he knows he killed liddy

either way, what a pathetic ending... why do they always rush the final kill, they did it with jordan and trinity

I was very mixed at the time but have grown to love it to the point that I can't imagine it ending any other way.
This feels alot more like Lost with the wheels falling off the show after brilliant early seasons.
Although, even thinking about how they killed Doakes now seems incredibly stupid.

I wanted a scene with him driving the backhoe into position, maybe saying something along the lines of "Dexter is very upset so he won't have his eyes on the road... and if I position it just so... he'll flip his car... right HERE." And then JC camps out in the bushes and waits with a smirk on his face.

I don't think there's any way Deb has a clue about Dexter. She would flip the **** out if she thought that was even a remote possibility. And while end-of-season-5 Quinn would obviously never say anything about the suspicions he now has about Dexter, start-of-season-6 Quinn will probably find a reason to because the writers need to invent some **** to keep the show going.

the ending would have been mind-blowing if Deb had busted Dexter and just turned her eyes. Whatever, I'm way too plot committed to quit now.

It's standard for her conversations with Dexter to have a double meaning. I imagine next season part of the double meaning is going to be, "Does she know?" There are even a few points this season where you might read them as her testing him, feeling him out.

If you look at just the past month in Miami Metro, she finds out Dexter is the BHBs brother, she comes across Dexter having beaten SWAT to Trinity's garage, Trinity breaks his m.o. to kill Dexter's wife, Dexter beats her to a crime scene that she believes was staged... that's off the top of my head, I'm sure I'm missing some stuff.

I like the character and think the actress is doing an excellent job, but she doesn't make much sense. How she would act/react, the questions she would pose and investigate, etc.

I think it is impossible to have 5 seasons of a serial killer forensics guy who is constantly barely a step a head of the police without the project collapsing under its own silliness-- but Dexter does a pretty damn good job. I know I enjoy it.

I guess I view those conversations differently than you. I don't see them as Deb probing Dexter, I see them as the writers speaking to the viewers through Deb in a thinly-veiled manner, prob the best example being where she explained her vigilante theory ("so this chick escaped, but she has to have someone helping her, someone who loves her, someone who understands what she's been through, blah blah") to him.

Yeah, but Deb never seems to put any of this together. It's all forgotten by the next episode. Which is frustrating to watch, because I think the show would be much more interesting if the plot actually progressed over time, and this season it didn't at all.

Quinn pretty much has all the circumstantial evidence he needs to know Dexter was killing those guys with Lumen and that he killed Liddy. He can still assume Dexter did have something to do with Trinity but he doesnt quite know how he fits in. He might be able to link Dexter to the BHB killings given the similar MO, though he will probably just assume Dexter learned from that case in forming his own MO.

The end of 5 was very much a case of i know that you know that i know type deal. Id be shocked if this isnt the A story next year though, or at least the second A story behind some kind of big bad.

Do people really think Deb is going to find out about Dexter, and then we'll go ahead and proceed to have an entire season?

If/when she finds out, it'll be at the end of the series.

Oh, and BRING BACK LITHGOW!!!

I actually quite enjoyed this season for the most part, because it looked like Dexter was in real trouble at one point, which brought back the memories of Season 2. It seems the problem with this show in general is that Dexter is completely reliant on plot contrivances to get him out of trouble. Season 2 had the giant deus ex machina in that Lila just happened to steal Dexter's GPS, find the cabin in the woods and decide to blow up Doakes, as opposed to being repulsed that Dexter is a serial killer, like 99.9% of people would be. The season built up to a huge climax which completely crashed.

It was basically the same here, although even worse.

- Liddy was basically a ******. Why would you poorly tie someone up who you know is a serial killer, and carry them in a van with you to a secluded area? Why did he not do more with his video footage than simply whine to Quinn about it; it was incredibly incriminating?

- It's starting to annoy me how Dexter hardly ever seems to actually do any work, and is always disappearing off without anyone questioning him. For instance, after they found Liddy and Laguerta needed the blood on Quinn's shoe analysed quickly, Dexter zooms off to go and save Lumen, and no one bats an eyelid.

- As has been mentioned many a time here, the number of plot holes regarding Quinn's release is ridiculous.

- Anything up to the point where Dexter and Lumen started killing people can basically be disregarded in this season, as it was all entirely irrelevant.

So, this season certainly had a lot of negatives. However, about 3/4 of the way through I was hooked again in a way that I wasn't during Season 4, and certainly wasn't during Season 3 (I think I was asleep for most of that season). I'm inclined to believe that if it had been structured better and had a better ending, then this season might have almost equalled the first two. I was disappointed by the ending, but I think that's mainly down to the fact that it had so much more potential.

Season ranking:

Season 1 / Season 2 pretty evenly matched, followed by Season 5, then Season 4 slightly behind, then waaayyy behind is Season 3. I will never forget the Key Lime Pie scenes - I will never get that time back!

Dexter executive producer answers some questions on S5 and upcoming seasons: http://www.tvguide.com/News/Dexter-F...b&profileid=01

"TVGuide.com: How much longer can you continue to let Deb almost find out?
Colleton: I can tell you this: This is the last time we will dangle that. "

Im wondering about that too.. Thats why S5 disappointed me..

That and irony. Something like, "How could we have missed this killer right under our noses?" And Dexter's responses are a different form of irony, he routinely says something that could be interpreted differently and reveal something about him.


While simultaneously making remarkable leaps of intuition and exceeding her colleagues by putting the pieces together elsewhere. In a way I think they tried to address this with Dexter's conversation with Lumen: "I guess Deb has a blindspot when it comes to me." I'm saying that her character doesn't make sense, specifically in regards to Dexter, so I'm not sure we disagree.

Executive Producer - "And Quinn — Dexter completely breaks his code and does this wonderfully altruistic thing, where he gives Quinn a pass because he loves his sister."

That's from the interview posted and is referring to Dexter tampering with the blood work. I hope she is just forgetting to mention that it helps Dexter out tremendously and that was really the main motivation with his sister's feelings being a bonus. I really hope that's what the writers intended or else I will become very concerned about the future of the show. Also don't understand what that has to do with the "code."

The show will become impossible and/or laborious if Dexter has to constantly answer questions for where he goes all the time. I don't want all that much realism with stuff like that, just try to avoid the huge "WTF he doesn't care that he stole a car and crashed it at a crime scene?" type things.

Did I completely wipe from my memory that Deb knows Dexter is Rudy's brother?

to sum it up: on how dexter is doing each season