God damn it she's gonna be a love interest.

Even if every storyline they've setup ends amazingly, the way they set up this whole season has been lazy and horrible. Personally, I think S3 > S5.

It's really a shame, since the S4 finale gave them so many great possibilities for this year.

yeah what sucks is that she's gonna be in Season 6 now as well. But I do like where this season is headed and the Angel/Laguerta/Deb storyline is actually getting a little bit interesting now with Laguerta royally screwing over Deb. I saw next week's preview and it seems like its gonna be amazing.

Also, I was watching this on a stream, and the guy rewinded the sex scene with Cole 3 times, and during one of those time, he put it on slow motion and watched it. It was quite funny.

At this point I'm vaguely hoping that the season will end "Dallas" dream-style with Dex waking from a shock induced coma from seeing Rita murdered and realizing none of the events this season happened. As cheesy as that is, it'd be a saving grace at this point.

One of the better eps of the season, definetely the best cliffhanger. But a polished piece of **** is still a piece of ****.

yea laguerta f*cking over Deb makes me intersted in a side story for the 1st time in awhile. I just really want to see laguerta get sh*t on I think... seasons def picked up

hm, yeah, better... interested to see how the cliffhanger resolves itself.

and obviously **** laguerta

Seems pretty impractical that Robocop could follow the boat and get pictures of them dumping the bodies.

So nobody was bothered by the fact that Cole smashed the hotel door into splinters and yet Dexter and Lumen continued to just stay there and use it as a kill room? Good job hotel security and housekeeping not noticing a demolished room door.

I can't re-watch because I deleted it off my DVR, but I guess it was possible that Cole smashed the inside door between the suites, but it sure seemed like Lumen was right next to the entry door off the hall and that's the one Cole smashed. Am I way off? I can't see any reason why this struggle wouldn't have been heard/seen/reported.

nah I remember this bothering me for about 5 seconds and then I forgot about it just like I do every week watching this show with at least 1 thing that is ridiculous

Cole came busting through the door between the suites.

Figured that was it. Okay, so when Chase discovered Cole was missing and everyone was looking for him, they went up to his room and found the door between his room and the one next door busted? So then what, nobody tried to figure out who was staying next door?

Guess it doesn't matter. It's just weird that the show considers so many details and takes them seriously, then just overlooks a lot of glaring stuff out of convenience. It seemed to me that in earlier seasons, there was consistency to which details were justified and which ones involved suspension of disbelief.

+1

i kept thinking of the smashed door, security cameras in hotel etc for rest of episode.

yeah you're right pj

well if you're going to get nitty how/why would dexter rent a hotel room at all

I really kinda liked this episode. I like where I think they could, or should, go with it. But either way, almost all of the routes they could go with what they've set up so far is good enough for me to enjoy this season. Not as much as I'd hoped before it started, but it's not nearly as bad as I thought it was going to be after episode 3 or 4. It will go down as a damn good season. I'm not expecting anything more.

There are quite a few guaranteed kills this season, and a few that might be surprising by the end.

I do however think that:




Book it.

Too correct. And the laughability of getting away with killing a head security guy doing regular rounds is even more awful if you think about it. Why does Super-Dex even go for secluded areas any more? He bags and kills people in five minutes, **** is easy anyway.

I figured (rationalized) it as he opened the door on his side and smashed through the door to the room Dexter rented. Cole's room looks completely normal.

I doubt Dexter could replace the door on his side easy though. Should be pretty easy for someone to connect a broken door and a missing person from next door and look up who was in that room.

I'm only the only one that was tilted with the realization that Chase was the man with the watch? When him and Cole walked into the police station the framed his watch in such an obvious way I assumed Dexter knew and was making plans to kill them both.

How in the world is that nitty? THE DOOR WAS SMASHED TO PIECES.

Ugh. Words cannot express how disgusted I am at the direction this season is taking. I firmly believe Dexter's actions have lost all sense of congruence with the character we knew in the past, or even the stock image of "folk" serial killer as is usually imagined on TV shows.

First, and perhaps I harp on this point too much, but Dexter is taking risks above and beyond what he's permitted in previous seasons. I can't believe he would ever tough it out with a pyschologically unstable character like Lumen, to the point that he's nonchalant that Lumen's scurrying to secret meetings with acquaintances from her past life, variables he knows nothing about and can't control.

But that's not what's gets me. What gets me is the total inappropriateness of Dexter choosing Lumen as his "partner" in crime; a handy reference point is Season 3, in comparison to Miguel. Miguel fit much more perfectly into the role that they're to pigeonhole Lumen into; unlike her, he was an actual asset to Dexter's serial killing proclivities, in being able to direct and grant him access to hardcore killers that would otherwise be unavailable to him. Secondly, Miguel's personality actually displayed qualities that one would imagine would be attractive to fellow serial killers, as was evidenced by the stunning betrayal of Dexter; at the climax, we understood that he was charismatic, utterly petty about taking life, and supreme egoist, all qualities that fit the serial killer mold to a tee.

Now, other than making various sorts of doe eyes at Dexter and sobbing, what does Lumen bring to the table? Jack ****, that's what. Miguel snatched a life, right of in front of Dexter. What's she going to do for Dexter, be his cheerleader? Hiss into their ears while Dex does all the hard work? Why on Earth would she value trophies if she isn't willing to demand the kill herself? This is a classic case of the penis or (or "penis fantasies" lead the brains: Guys think certain genre or theme is cool (suppose, a ninja revenge story or maybe a playboy tale), and because they like girls too, often step too far and invent incongruent characters. (E.g., there's no such thing a woman serial rapist, it's hard to even portray such things even in fantasy settings because the personality most women display and the personality the character demands don't mesh) The part where Dexter handed Lumen a blood smile and she beamed through their tears like he had handed her a diamond ring, prompting a smile back, felt unbelievably stupid and wrong: more appropriate would have been, say, an intensely frazzled Dexter, wondering aloud how this woman is complicating his life, and a Lumen that cut the guys balls off and fed it to him or did some other sort of sadistic thing. Because the writers are trying hard to maintain a romantic spark between Lumen and Dexter, and keeping her vulnerable, and honestly, human, the whole thing just feels off to me. They're dangerously foreshadowing Dexter the sitcom, where the family goes out to eat and then maybe a night of murder.

That's probably deserves the requisite tl;dr, but I had to get that rant out, I"m sorry.

This, especially since he obviously did it in his own name. Cole busting through the door of HIS hotel room into a room DEXTER MORGAN rented (after all three of them are clearly on hotel surveillance footage entering their respective rooms) is a massive plot hole/example of incredibly lazy writing. Dexter would be arrested for murder within hours of the kill.

....the fk? you must have really enjoyed the past seasons of this show. just curious, what was you major in school?

No body no crime.

That is the guy who is disappointed that MCH married Jennifer Carpenter because she wasnt "good enough for him" and he no longer "saw him the same way" because of it.

Anyway, i enjoyed the ep and dont hate this season at all. Probably gonna end up being the worst of the 5 but its not actually bad at all, it just raised the bar for itself (esp season 4) and seems worse in comparison. If this somehow followed season 3 people would consider it much better.

Oh and Dexter making mistakes is the entire ****ing point, stop nitpicking every single ep that he made a mistake being photographed by robocop or he told Lumen his name etc etc.