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08-20-2012 , 09:19 PM
S1e2 - The 2 scenes with Bullock/Star/Swedgin trying to buy the lot were so damn great, Bullocks eyes burn with rage.

Bullock - "What business of that is his?"
Swedgin - "You mean what business of mine is that."
Bullock - "Don't tell me what the fvck I mean!"

The 2nd scene is great with Swedigin's counter offer of "GO FVCK YOURSELF!"

Olyphant has the best facial expressions of rage and irritation.

Doc and Dougherty teaming up with a plan to tell Al about the squarehead girl. Funny.

It's going to be easy to blow through seasons.
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08-21-2012 , 06:37 AM
Thing I recall most about s1e2: Farnum crossing the street (excuse me, the "thoroughfare") and dodging a falling tree. In the middle of the street. The whole town was still "under construction", they were still clearing trees to make room for the camp.

BTW, my favorite scene in the show's run, the scene that positively hooked me for good (as if I needed that), is coming up in s1e3. Quite.
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08-21-2012 , 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by electricladylnd
S1e2 - The 2 scenes with Bullock/Star/Swedgin trying to buy the lot were so damn great, Bullocks eyes burn with rage.

Bullock - "What business of that is his?"
Swedgin - "You mean what business of mine is that."
Bullock - "Don't tell me what the fvck I mean!"


The 2nd scene is great with Swedigin's counter offer of "GO FVCK YOURSELF!"

Olyphant has the best facial expressions of rage and irritation.

Doc and Dougherty teaming up with a plan to tell Al about the squarehead girl. Funny.

It's going to be easy to blow through seasons.
The delivery of that last line was so good. Rewatcing deadood is so much fun, you get to think "that was one of tv's best scenes, evarrr" over and over again.
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08-21-2012 , 06:18 PM
agreed on the dialogue timing. this is one show I have, and will continue to, rewind a scene a few times.
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08-24-2012 , 07:29 AM
Sepinwall's summer "Rewind" of Season Two is over, but the last few episodes were posted sporadically, and Jim Beaver's comments got lost. He went back and posted his comments under each episode's rewind, and you have to hunt and peck to find them, but I'm so glad I took the effort.

He has mentioned in those comments that he lost his wife while they were filming Season One. This summer was the first time I've rewatched Season Two since learning that, and s2e8 when Ellsworth started his marriage proposal to Alma with, "I had a wife," his voice clearly quaking as he said it, I almost lost it.

I just now read Beaver's comments on that episode, and they're amazing. Before he gets to the proposal scene, he talks about scenes filmed up in the mountains that were set around Hearst's and Alma's mining operations:

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Both the mining sequence and the Ellsworth-dog conversation were miserable experiences. The mine set was near Frazier Park, some seventy-five miles north of Los Angeles and nearly fifty north of our set at Melody Ranch in Newhall. The day we shot these scenes, it was cold. Frazier Park is up in the low mountains. It was bitter that day, with a brisk, sometimes brutal, wind. There were a great number of atmosphere players who'd been hired to do the shower-inspection sequence, paid extra for the nudity required, but scores of those people quit when they realized they'd have to be doused in cold water in that freezing wind. David, as I recall, coughed up a substantial amount of additional money from his own pocket to persuade a handful of men to stick with the job, and it was those brave souls you see on screen. The wind chill was far below freezing that day. I was swathed in layers and layers of thermal wear and it was still the coldest I have ever been at work. But I wasn't naked under water. To add to the misery, one of the men, a stuntman, not only had to endure the water, but had to run naked across wet, rocky ground and do a forward fall onto the ground when shot. If you look closely at the last close shot of him lying "dead," you can see him shivering. I'd love to say I'd have had the guts to have done something like that, but I cannot imagine ever agreeing to.

The naked guys weren't the only ones shivering. As I said, I was chilled to the core, even in thick clothing. It was all I could do to get my words out without my jaw shaking. To add to the distress, we had to do the scene many more times than usual because the dog was shaking so much he had trouble staying focused on his trainer. Everyone asks me about that dog, and I guess people are charmed by Ellsworth's relationship with it. But I hated doing scenes with the dog, because when you're working with an animal or a kid, it doesn't matter if you're John Freaking Gielgud in your scene, if the dog or cat or baby isn't looking at the right spot, they'll do the scene over and over until it is, and that's the take they'll print, whether you like what you did or not. It was always difficult with that dog, but especially so on that freezing day. It was a great dramatic device having me do monologues to the dog, but I'd have loved to trade soliloquy partners with Ian. His Indian head never shivered or looked in the wrong direction. Plus, I think the dog drank. (I'll have more to say about that little bastard when we get to my last monologue in the series in season three.)

Tim Van Patten directed this episode. It was the first time I'd ever worked with him. I didn't know him previously, but his half-brother Dick Van Patten is a friend of mine, a close buddy of my father-in-law Don Adams, and Tim knew my wife and her family very well. The scene in which Ellsworth proposes to Alma was my first scene to shoot in the episode, and Tim and I discussed my wife Cecily's death not long before. He knew of it, of course, but hadn't made the connection to me. We were talking about that part of my life as they set up lights for the proposal scene, and suddenly Tim said, "Oh, jeez, Ellsworth's wife died, too! How can they make you play this?" During that episode a lot of people expressed their concerns that David and the writers were perhaps being thoughtless or even exploitive by giving me lines to say about losing my wife so soon after it had happened to me in real life. But I said to them, as I've said to everyone, that it was not a burden, indeed it was a blessing. With that glorious scene, I was given a gift few actors get, the possibility of making some small good come from something terrible, of fashioning a tiny silk purse from the most enormous sow's ear. Indeed, when I first read the script, I went to David and said, "I know what you're doing here. Thank you." So much of our work as actors involves imagining how something would feel, or calling up some inexact similarity from life to crudely replicate an emotion. With this scene, I got to play closer to life than with any scene I've ever played before or since, and I consider it the greatest gift I've ever been given as a performer. Until you've been able to shift a tiny portion of some terrible heavy emotion over into the positive column, you may not be able to understand how blessed I felt with that scene.
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08-24-2012 , 11:33 AM
Started my 4th rewatch last night.

'Don't forget to kill Tim.' Johnnys facial expressions are so awesome. Psyched to start the ride all over again.
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08-27-2012 , 01:39 PM
Finished S1 already. Just too ****ing good.

HBO really screwed the pooch.
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08-28-2012 , 12:20 AM
Al talking to Johnny about a new position and Johnny being Johnny.

"The direction of my thoughts with the sustained fvking stupidity that you're exibiting, I hesitate to voice them"

"I have just fled my own office in horror because of his fvking dimwittedness"
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08-28-2012 , 12:53 AM
Haven't read all of the thread so apologies if this has been discussed.

Does anyone think that there was a lot more planned for Brian Cox's (Langrishe) character?
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08-28-2012 , 08:41 AM
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Sepinwall's summer "Rewind" of Season Two is over, but the last few episodes were posted sporadically, and Jim Beaver's comments got lost. He went back and posted his comments under each episode's rewind, and you have to hunt and peck to find them, but I'm so glad I took the effort.

He has mentioned in those comments that he lost his wife while they were filming Season One. This summer was the first time I've rewatched Season Two since learning that, and s2e8 when Ellsworth started his marriage proposal to Alma with, "I had a wife," his voice clearly quaking as he said it, I almost lost it.

I just now read Beaver's comments on that episode, and they're amazing. Before he gets to the proposal scene, he talks about scenes filmed up in the mountains that were set around Hearst's and Alma's mining operations:
This is really great stuff, thanks for posting YTF.

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Haven't read all of the thread so apologies if this has been discussed.

Does anyone think that there was a lot more planned for Brian Cox's (Langrishe) character?

I read somewhere that David Milch planned to have Al fall from grace in S4, and Langrishe would somehow be the agent of that, like he would betray him in some way. Not sure how accurate all that is though.
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08-28-2012 , 09:56 AM
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I read somewhere that David Milch planned to have Al fall from grace in S4, and Langrishe would somehow be the agent of that, like he would betray him in some way. Not sure how accurate all that is though.
I figured he would have some sort of large conflict with Al at some point. No sense in bringing in such a great actor if you didn't have big plans for them. With the show ending so abruptly, the whole Langrishe character and storyline was pretty pointless. All it provided was some comic relief between him and Al.
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08-28-2012 , 01:23 PM
Yeah, the Sepinwall blog rules. Thx YTF.
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08-28-2012 , 03:45 PM
Just started watching this. I finished season 1 and it was great but I started season 2 and the first episode is terrible.
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08-28-2012 , 04:27 PM
Brian Cox sure thinks so. He said in an interview that "clearly" his character was to betray Swearengen to Hearst. Since the real Al Swearengen died drunk and broke, and since Al is REALLY hitting the bottle harder in Season Three than earlier, I believe it.

LonelyRich, if you didn't love S2e1, just stop watching now, I guess. I'm not trying to make this sound like a putdown, there's nothing wrong with not liking something. Still, it warrants mention that I've never heard of anyone liking Season One then not liking anything that came after it.
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08-28-2012 , 04:37 PM
Yeah every episode from the beginning to the end is pure awesomeness. Maybe you didn't like it because there were a lot of new characters introduced and was therefore a little slower than previous episodes?
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08-28-2012 , 06:04 PM
Terrible? That's nonsense.
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08-28-2012 , 07:36 PM
I don't remember S2ep1 but I would bet it was anything but terrible. Might go watch it now just to see.
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08-28-2012 , 09:38 PM
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Yeah every episode from the beginning to the end is pure awesomeness. Maybe you didn't like it because there were a lot of new characters introduced and was therefore a little slower than previous episodes?
I think it's the fastest paced episode I've seen yet. They have mustache cop fight mustache bartender but the writing is terrible and the actors seem uncomfortable with thier lines. I'm going to stick with it but I'm a little thrown off.
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08-29-2012 , 03:02 PM
I need to come here and get the filth off of me from a different board I frequent where Deadwood is a good show but not exceptional, the plots aren't that great, and the show was carried by Mcshane with some help from Powers Booth and the other characters were meh.
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08-29-2012 , 03:32 PM
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Just started watching this. I finished season 1 and it was great but I started season 2 and the first episode is terrible.
Seriously? I really don't know what to say.

Welcome to ****ing Deadwood!
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08-29-2012 , 03:33 PM
That was a good scene. Mustache bartender is a great actor. Mustache cop not so much.
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08-29-2012 , 03:35 PM
**** every last one of you. I wish I was a ****in tree.
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08-29-2012 , 04:13 PM
You guys need to go blow yourselves.....with soap.
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08-29-2012 , 04:54 PM
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I need to come here and get the filth off of me from a different board I frequent where Deadwood is a good show but not exceptional, the plots aren't that great, and the show was carried by Mcshane with some help from Powers Booth and the other characters were meh.
Genuinely don't understand why you would want to discuss TV shows with people who think that way.
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08-29-2012 , 05:38 PM
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Genuinely don't understand why you would want to discuss TV shows with people who think that way.
Oh I definitely don't, it is in a sub forum of a sports site, and a thread is "movies we have rented lately" and I mentioned I rewatched Deadwood S1 thinking I was gonna get some like mindedness. I was wrong.
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