I think i asked it itt before, but is there any truth to George hearst being such a sadistic ****?

I'd read somewhere that he was actually known for his honesty and sense of humility.

Not sure how much credence to give this, but a short google search pulled up this:

http://www.legendsofamerica.com/we-georgehearst.html

to be fair, the University of California has always been heavily endowed by the Hearst family, and in 1899, his widow, Phoebe Apperson Hearst, was serving as regent.

George Hearst in Deadwood serves more as a caricature or representative of robber barons, vile industrialists, and greedy inhuman bastards everywhere than as a historical reenactment.

From what I've read Hearst wasn't nearly as anti-social and nasty as he was portrayed, and Swearengen + his two henchmen were much more violent towards his whores and in general.

As well, EB Farnum probably wasn't as contemptible

Anybody remember Adams' quote to Johnny, something like, "When he's not stealing, Al's the most honest guy you'll ever meet."? Or what episode it was in, so I can look up the exact quote?

I remember Adams and Johnny are returning from Wu's meat locker, and Johnny remarked on Al's insistence that they leave the absent Wu a note promising to pay for the meat they took. Then Adams sees Hawkeye passed out drunk, and hands his load of meat over to Johnny to carry the rest of the way.

BURNS: What are you going to do?

ADAMS: Murder.

Anybody recall which ep that was? Or more specifically, Adams' exact quote about Al?

When he ain't lyin' Al's the most honorable man you'll ever meet.

I think it's the last episode.

Here's the quote, taken from http://turtlegirl76.com/deadwood/indexOLD.htm

"When he ain’t lyin’, Al’s the most honorable man you’ll ever meet."

It was the last episode.

Nice call. Thanks, Amp.

(On that Sepinwall blog, on the "new viewers" page (those who haven't seen future eps yet, just keeping up week-to-week with the ep being discussed), one Newb thought Cy was 100% evil, while Al was an "honest crook". I want to hit him with that line, without mentioning that it's a spoiler, kind of an inside joke for us vets.)

Whenever people poking holes in the Casey Anthony evidence pontificate, "That can't be right, NOBODY Googles something 84 times!", I reply, "I'd be willing to bet that I've Googled 'David Milch' much more than 84 times. I check every few weeks to see when his new show is due to launch, any interviews he may have given, etc. I love that guy."

Well, last night's Google turned up this little 80-min chat he gave a few nights ago to aspiring young actors and writers:

http://********/sag-foundation/an-eve...-milch-5372788

It's mostly stories we've heard before, but don't worry, I data-mined this thing for you, and here are the gems:

MODERATOR: (reading questions submitted from audience) Oh, here's an interesting one: Was the character Con Stapleton modeled after yourself? And I say that's an interesting question, because it was submitted by Peter Jason, who played Con Stapleton!

MILCH: Oh, is Peter here? Hi, Peter! To answer your question, yes! Peter, did you ever see yourself in John from Cincinnati? Peter played the role of God, as the owner of a used car lot.

***

MODERATOR: Are you working on Luck now?

MILCH: We wrapped up a few weeks ago.

MODERATOR: What's next for you?

MILCH: As I mentioned, I'm working on that movie for Warner Bros, based on that video game (Heavy Rain). After that, we're looking at, well, there are talks--I guess now I can say "serious talks"--about doing two 2-hour Deadwoods.

(audience, otherwise reserved for most of the talk, breaks into applause)

MILCH: I feel like I never got the chance the finish that, the way I should have.

(I should point out that this was shortly after saying that he's financially secure, and no longer writes for the money, but for the art's sake; for this reason, I believe he's firmly committed to the unfinished business of Deadwood. In interviews I've read with Earl Brown, he mentions that when he sees Milch, Milch just about PROMISES him that he's not finished with Deadwood yet. I remember some other actor, or maybe it was Brown again, saying that he did a guest spot on Justified, and every other minute he and Olyphant would look at each other and wonder, "Why the hell are we doing this, when we should be doing Deadwood?")

Oh yeah, when asked about working with Michael Mann, he gave nothing but glowing praise, and indicated that it was a pleasure to collaborate with him.

I had completely bought it, until he added at the end, "Was that diplomatic enough?"

Thanks for this link and the brief excerpts. I really love hearing about ANYTHING related to Deadwood.

Then you're going to love this.

I just found a twitter account @mrsalswearengen and she seems to sniff this stuff out far more intensely than I ever could.

Some gems I've uncovered from her twitter, just in the last ten minutes:

--Geri Jewell's new autobiography says that she was in a tough spot when she bumped into Milch on the street. Creating a role just for her and hiring her wasn't enough of an act of kindness for this guy--he also paid her rent for a while, and put her in enough episodes so she could qualify for insurance. She also mentioned the weekly "lottery", sponsored entirely by Milch, where some "lucky" hard-up member of the crew would win $2000.

--I'm sure I've posted the YouTube vid of the young, aspiring standup comic who did a few minutes about being David Milch's waiter. @mrsalswearengen linked me to his blog, where he tells the story about Milch paying for his surgery, and relentlessly following up to make sure the kid was OK.

--found out Ian McShane did some voiceover work for ESPN's British Open coverage last week: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP2YVtrkjR8 "Centuries!!!"

--And since I haven't caught her spewing any BS yet, I found this as credible as I found it interesting:



If the idea of Al's "downfall" sounds dubious to you, you may find it interesting to know that the real Swearengen died drunk and broke, in Denver. Go watch Season Three again, he's hitting that bottle pretty damned hard.

Looking for some confirmation of "Cox said he was gonna Judas Al", here's the first thing I found, from Cox himself:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/brian-cox,2424/

Oh yeah, one aspiring young actress asked him how involved he is in the casting process (answer: deeply, with Luck being the exception). The follow-up question was his opinion on actors who show up to auditions in costume.

It depends, was pretty much the answer. He mentioned that Robin Weigert showed up in a costume to audition for Jane. On the other hand, some guy showed up to audition for Hickok in costume, and Milch "hated that guy with a mortal passion."

can someone fully explain why in season 3



if its explained after where I'm at, sorry in advance

I think this is pretty much why: no idea why I put it in spoilers but what the hell......

i found one thread on the interwebz that odell was really hearst's son

lol. far too much time on someone's hand

eta: the theory, not you.

I like the theory, makes some of Hearst's interactions with Aunt Lou more interesting, and they do refer to Odell as being high yellow.

Hearst doesn't seem that interested in getting laid, and if he did, he could do far better than Aunt Lou.

"All I care about is the color," not "the colored maid."

Luck debuts in January. Here's a link for citation purposes, but it's really only one line in a story about HBO series like Game of Thrones and Ladies Detective Agency, so I wouldn't bother to click it.

http://communityvoices.sites.post-ga...-thrones-plans

This sucks. Now I've got my hopes up, and when it doesn't happen, I'll have to be crushed all over again.

Aerial view of the DW sets:

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...odsetlarge.jpg

Jim Beaver just mentioned on the Sepinwall discussion that Cy was supposed to kill Eddie Sawyer in the Season One finale, but Ricky Jay refused to do it. Jay's character just disappeared, and was explained away with a single line of dialog the following season.

In a similar topic, he mentioned that Kristen Bell's character was supposed to be part of a much bigger arc, but once she started, her agent went back to the producers (unknown to her) and demanded more money. They promptly killed her off.

Beaver hints that it was offscreen tension between Milch and Jay that led to Eddie Sawyer's early demise. He went on to say that just about every significant character killed on the show was probably the source of off-screen tension of some type.

Rewatching with the wife. She loves it through the first three eps.

You guys really ought to read Beaver's comments (near the bottom of the page) from this final week. You'll love the story about the ridiculous "looping" session, where they tried to dub in cleaner language in case this show ever got syndicated (lol).

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-al...terans-edition