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06-24-2020 , 02:23 AM
Crazy show. Definitely has a Primer feel to it.

Only real complaint: Everyone has a time machine. Everyone going back and forth and somehow it's all kept secret.
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06-24-2020 , 11:42 PM
this watchthrough is reminding me how much i love the soundtrack montages.

s01e03


s01e04
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06-25-2020 , 03:09 AM
Yeah they're great

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06-27-2020 , 12:25 AM
Season 2 was hard to binge because there was so much to take in. I felt like a needed a break after each episode. Episode S2E6 was my favorite and probably the best of the series. Can’t wait for tomorrow. If they can nail the ending this will go down as a top 10 show.
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06-27-2020 , 03:13 AM
I'm watching S3 right now!
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06-27-2020 , 07:38 AM
Through 4 episodes. Holy ****! this season does not disappoint, so much to unpack.
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06-27-2020 , 09:21 AM
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Season 2 was hard to binge because there was so much to take in. I felt like a needed a break after each episode. Episode S2E6 was my favorite and probably the best of the series. Can’t wait for tomorrow. If they can nail the ending this will go down as a top 10 show.
I finally read one of those guides. Godamn so worth it. I was at 75% understanding and this took me to 100%. There are so many little sneaky things this show does where they show you a character in the past for like 2 seconds and the guides help there.
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06-29-2020 , 06:19 AM
I'm halfway through S3, and will finish next weekend.

Overall, so far it's not quite the standard of S1 and especially S2. My main problem is the introduction of new characters and storylines in what is essentially the third act. This is a mistake in any narrative. Meanwhile, other more established characters/storylines are given little screen time or sidelined.

In addition, there are a couple of story threads that just don't appear to be going anywhere relevant. This is largely a problem of pacing, as with only 4 episodes to go we should be building a momentum to the finale, but a lot of it is still very pedestrian.
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06-29-2020 , 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Elrazor
I'm halfway through S3, and will finish next weekend.

Overall, so far it's not quite the standard of S1 and especially S2. My main problem is the introduction of new characters and storylines in what is essentially the third act. This is a mistake in any narrative. Meanwhile, other more established characters/storylines are given little screen time or sidelined.

In addition, there are a couple of story threads that just don't appear to be going anywhere relevant. This is largely a problem of pacing, as with only 4 episodes to go we should be building a momentum to the finale, but a lot of it is still very pedestrian.

I’m through 5 episodes and I agree. Though it does start picking up in episode 5.
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06-29-2020 , 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Elrazor
I'm halfway through S3, and will finish next weekend.

Overall, so far it's not quite the standard of S1 and especially S2. My main problem is the introduction of new characters and storylines in what is essentially the third act. This is a mistake in any narrative. Meanwhile, other more established characters/storylines are given little screen time or sidelined.

In addition, there are a couple of story threads that just don't appear to be going anywhere relevant. This is largely a problem of pacing, as with only 4 episodes to go we should be building a momentum to the finale, but a lot of it is still very pedestrian.
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I’m through 5 episodes and I agree. Though it does start picking up in episode 5.
Strongly disagree, I'm not sure there is any character introduced in S3 that doesn't matter to the bigger picture.

I found the ending very satisfying and the Netflix Dark site to be invaluable:


https://darknetflix.io/en

It allows you to select your insertion point into the series so you can poke around without spoiling anything.
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06-29-2020 , 10:23 AM
Just finished it. GOAT show. Best ever time travel tv/movie ever created.

Definitely need to rewatch the season now that I know where each piece belongs.

The ending was very satisfying
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It's a little depressing seeing almost all our heroes will never have existed because they were all just a product of a time paradox.
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06-30-2020 , 09:02 AM
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Strongly disagree, I'm not sure there is any character introduced in S3 that doesn't matter to the bigger picture.
That's sort of my point. If they mattered to the bigger picture, they should have been introduced earlier than s3. It just felt like the main plot ground to a halt for 4 episodes while they had to go around the block fleshing these characters out.

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This was also evident in the Jonas/OW Martha thread. From zero backstory (from OW Martha's perspective), she just accepts time travel and the apocalypse, and falls in love with Jonas in a couple of days. The writing here was rushed, and did neither the characters or their actors any favours
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06-30-2020 , 11:35 AM
I suffered from some Dark fatigue while watching all three seasons in a row. It's a lot to take in and was mentally exhausting at times. I really didn't like the 3rd season that much. I think it was a combination of being tired of thinking so hard, the show going a little over my head and season 3 being uneven. Season 3 felt slow to get going and then episode 7 was rushed with it jumping time periods non stop. The ending was what I expected and really the only way I thought this show could go out. I need to take a break from TV for a while after watching this.
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07-03-2020 , 10:37 AM
Started season 1, enjoying it so far. The overall cinematography and soundtrack fit this story really well. Still a little confused overall but I suspect some of the characters/story are going to be explained as this continues. A lot to think about with each episode for sure.
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07-03-2020 , 02:53 PM
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Started season 1, enjoying it so far. The overall cinematography and soundtrack fit this story really well. Still a little confused overall but I suspect some of the characters/story are going to be explained as this continues. A lot to think about with each episode for sure.
If I could go back and start over, I'd check this site a ton, like ~once per ep probably. Seems like a great resource to follow along with.

https://darknetflix.io/en
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07-07-2020 , 01:49 PM
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I’m through 5 episodes and I agree. Though it does start picking up in episode 5.
ok good to hear. I binged S2 like a savage. At S3 I've paused most of the way into episode 3 because I'm frankly a bit bored. But I'll wait till patio season is over and give it the attention it deserves. Cold winter months are good for Dark.
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07-07-2020 , 03:33 PM
My brain really hurt a lot thinking through a lot of the events of Season 3. I feel like the show would benefit from a rewatch greatly if there was some sort of director's edit with a panel on the side of the screen telling us what characters are being shown, their parents/kids names (if relevant), and what year they are from, what year it is, etc. And this was WITH me rewatching S1+S2 over the course of 2-3 days immediately before going straight to S3.

Overall an amazing show though. Insane thinking that (Series ending + S3 spoilers)

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Tannhaus created a time machine to save his family that he will never know about.
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07-08-2020 , 12:30 AM
Just finished. I think this is an all time great show. Can’t to rewatch it!
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07-08-2020 , 01:36 AM
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I’m through 5 episodes and I agree. Though it does start picking up in episode 5.
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ok good to hear. I binged S2 like a savage. At S3 I've paused most of the way into episode 3 because I'm frankly a bit bored. But I'll wait till patio season is over and give it the attention it deserves. Cold winter months are good for Dark.
Just finished. I absolutely love this show, but even after a rewatch, the first 4 episodes of S3 are a grind.

However, it does indeed pick up from there, and I agree it's a satisfying ending to a show that was always more about the journey than the destination.

It's definitely an all HoF show, but I stand by my original comment about the introduction of the OW and new characters at such a late stage. However, S2 was flawless viewed as a standalone, and I wouldn't want the OW stuff bogging that down either. My reaction at the end of S2 when they introduced the OW was meh, so maybe I just didn't really care for that idea as I was too invested in the original characters and story.
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07-10-2020 , 11:19 AM
I liked it a lot, still would say S2 is my favorite. Overall a time-travel fiction hall-of-famer imo.

regarding dubbing:

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i think the default is dubbed if im not wrong, because thats what i got at first too and i hated it. I couldn't get past the fact that it all sounds studio-recorded (because it is), so you lose a lot of the other sounds
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you could watch this dubbed, but on the other hand you could instead kill yourself
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I prefer dubbing to subtitles, but I guess in Germany they are just technically better at it, as this is the usual mode of operation for like 70 years now. For example, I actually prefer the German dubbed version of Apocalypse Now to the original, since in the latter they mumble a lot, and some of the translations emphasize the absurdities going on, although that might have not been intentional.
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I can't understand why someone would rather watch a show dubbed than with subtitles. Watching something dubbed is so off putting I can only watch for like 5 minutes. I couldn't even watch an episode of foreign "Nailed It" on Netflix, and that show s as light as it gets.
I understand you a bit better now. Watched a Russian Sci-Fi flic with English dubbing; the voice of the female lead did a very good job, a couple of others were decent, but overall the dubbing gave the movie an amateurish feel while having Blockbuster production value otherwise.
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07-21-2020 , 12:18 AM
I thought the final season was pretty bad, tbh.

The first half is a complete grind, just nonstop scenes of people telling other people "you don't understand how it's all connected, but in time you will. For now, you must X. The light and the shadow" and then the other person doing that thing, until 20 minutes later when a different person convinces them that they were lied too.

Then after putzing around for 5 episodes, the show realized it needed to end so it introduced an entirely new solution and then they just did it. The show goes from treating time travel like a religion with strict 33 year shifts and all these rules into technobabble and pulling levers around electricity and

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giving the characters a magic ball that lets them go whereever and whenever they want!


a bunch of mysteries that were set up just never went anywhere
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Most importantly, the missing kids! The weird machine that burned people's faces? It was the hook that started the whole show and they just forgot about it.

Also it's unclear how or why that one Claudia managed to break the cycle. I also don't think the timeline for Martha 2 makes any sense but it's unclear what's part of the cycle and what isn't


I think the rules here are OK to spoil 1-2 but not three, so I'll just echo Elrazor's complaint. The introduction of an entirely new world with functionally(from a narrative perspective) a new Claudia and a new Noah(s) was a mistake. If those were going to be the antagonists, they should've been introduced earlier. I think the show would actually suffer quite badly on a rewatch because of this, all the mystery and intrigue in season 1 evaporates because you understand that for no good reason everyone on both sides of the conflict is studiously avoiding any mention of extremely important characters.

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07-22-2020 , 01:02 AM
Yeah I agree with most of that.

Seasons 1 & 2 were a masterpiece and it all fell apart at the end.
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07-22-2020 , 01:15 AM
I think it's a little unfair to say it all fell apart at the end - I still found the conclusion satisfying. However, it was never going to be more than that, as the show was always much more about the journey than the destination.
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07-22-2020 , 02:25 AM
True, I worded that poorly. They did wrap it all up and it made 'sense' (mostly), but the journey was an incredible ride the first two seasons and a boring and confusing uphill climb in the third.
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07-22-2020 , 08:57 AM
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True, I worded that poorly. They did wrap it all up and it made 'sense' (mostly), but the journey was an incredible ride the first two seasons and a boring and confusing uphill climb in the third.
Jones reading the letter in season one is one of the greatest moments in television history, definitely a great show to watch once without being spoilered.

But it seems like they maybe only had the first two seasons planned out in advance or something.

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