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04-15-2012 , 10:30 PM
Lisa has some major issues
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04-16-2012 , 12:09 AM
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Seems like Trump is protecting Dayana?
Seems like the internet might catch on?

Seems like the wheel was useful?

Seems like water is good for us?

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who else is he gonna jerk off to?
If he was smart, his daughter. She looked fine tonight. You could even see nip through that green dress. Cold room temperature ftw.

Even Clay sounded like he might turn straight for her. He was like "she's so stunning, and smart...she must make girls soo mad".
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04-16-2012 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by kordoISback
Lisa has some major issues
Her weight, blood:sugar, and cholesterol levels are like 19th, 23rd and 38th on her list of things she needs to fix.
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04-16-2012 , 12:18 AM
Any chance her winning as project leader will give her any humility in the rest of the competition?
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04-16-2012 , 12:44 AM
Humility? Lisa? No.

Though her incessant hatred spewed Dayana's direction may finally be weighing on her. She sounded like it's starting to upset her that she makes people cry.

Also LOL @ her yelling at Penn and Clay for not "backing her up". Jesus, eat a bullet already, Lisa. Maybe if she sacrifices herself God will give us Giraldo back.
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04-16-2012 , 02:42 AM
Love the continual weekly riggage. Trump doesn't say one thing about Teresa's numerous blunders on-stage and then proceeds to bash Paul for not bringing Arsenio in because Arsenio did a not so good job, completely contrary to what the execs said. Ivanka claiming Arsenio's puppet was not versatile enough is extremely minor in the big scheme of what went wrong. Ivanka did look fine though so I forgive her for that. Nonetheless Paul did **** all and Teresa is next to go.
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04-16-2012 , 02:58 AM
Yep. Paul is out of gas and clearly wasn't fighting for his job. Teresa totally bombed on this thing but at the very least she stuck her neck out and tried to perform a task.

Paul clearly was out of gas and I think Trump did him a favor. I don't think he cares for all the estrogen.

Teresa was awful but Paul should have had Aubrey do a puppet since she's better at improv. Her puppet was stupid looking and she broke all the improv rules and wans't funny or charming but damn at least she ****ing tried.

Nothing would be sexier than watching Ivanka in a fight with Aubrey in which Ivanka scraps out the win.
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04-16-2012 , 04:01 AM
Paul was worthless in tonight's episode. I wanted their team to lose just so he got fired for being a terrible project manager even though this show would be more peaceful without Lisa constantly shooting her mouth off.

Aubrey changing gears not to bring that completely taking over approach was solid on her part.

Teresa was bad but Paul doing nothing at all as the project manager sealed his fate.
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04-16-2012 , 04:01 AM
meh basically a throwaway episode
changing up teams always trucks the dynamics

i like how lisa goes from calling people dumb bitches to crying about not wanting to hurt their feelings

penn is like a fountain of wisdom

obv theresa and dayana are the next to go
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04-16-2012 , 06:43 AM
I find it interesting that Aubrey seems to pinpoint something almost every week that the execs will dislike and then each time the execs do bring it up. I think this time she mentioned that their puppets were too specific and not general enough, she mentioned that the execs wouldn't like the phrase "old-fashioned" in another task, she knows when something is too racy or not exactly what the execs are looking for, etc.

I thought she'd be a huge airhead after week 1, but she's proven to be pretty impressive, and even though she has some annoying quirks, she at least showed a bit of self-awareness by pulling back this week while still getting some good ideas out there. Their team was pretty screwed though, the puppets were probably slightly more important than hosting, so I would have had Aubrey do one puppet, but that would still leave Theresa or Paul to host.
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04-16-2012 , 07:30 AM
In some ways, I can understand Lisa's frustration. If a person is constantly nagging you about this-that and getting in the way, it does get annoying.

Dayana's intentions are good but learn to go with the flow especially when the task is out of your element plus not being fluent in English.
Would be terribly stupid to let her be up there to improv.

Lisa just needs to take it down a few notches on the scolding, be a bit more sly/smooth when dissing Dayana. She is coming off as wayyy too much of a bullyingbitch. Can never imagine Ivanka ever losing her elegance even when giving one of her employees ****. Jeez, I have become such a fan boy of hers, she's so sharp and on the ball.
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04-16-2012 , 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by coolnout

obv teresa and dayana are the next to go

Teresa is obviously gone next time her team loses.

I'm not sold on Dayana being a for sure fire if they lose. It will be between her and Lisa and I'm not sure how bad Lisa will wanna stay (last night said if her team lose she would probably quit) and if you don't fight in boardroom Trump jumps all over you. Lisa is smarter then Dayana, but she is also such a nut and Penn and Clay see it, also Dayana is a surprisingly decent player and I think Penn and Clay are starting to see that too. I would say Dayana is more likely to go before Lisa, but its not a given by any means. Also Trump loves Dayana so she has that going for her too.

Can't wait to see Aubrey/Arsenio round 2.
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04-16-2012 , 12:21 PM
So I heard Lisa on the radio this morning, and now I dislike her more. She first made it clear that she wasn't edited unfairly and stands behind what we saw of her (she says the only editing issues she's had so far were that they didn't show the full extent of Arsenio's rant, and they made 2 people look like better workers than they really are). Lisa was completely unapologetic, blaming Dayana even when not provoked to do so by the radio people. She hates Dayana for being more beautiful than smart. Lisa's message to us, if you were disturbed by her outbursts, was, and I nearly quote, if you don't like me, you can go eff yourself.
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04-16-2012 , 12:53 PM
She's not nearly funny enough to treat people like this.

Eddie Murphy in the '80s could get away with telling the public to go F themselves. Lisa Lampanelli..... cannot.
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04-16-2012 , 01:36 PM
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In some ways, I can understand Lisa's frustration. If a person is constantly nagging you about this-that and getting in the way, it does get annoying.

Dayana's intentions are good but learn to go with the flow especially when the task is out of your element plus not being fluent in English.
Would be terribly stupid to let her be up there to improv.

Lisa just needs to take it down a few notches on the scolding, be a bit more sly/smooth when dissing Dayana. She is coming off as wayyy too much of a bullyingbitch. Can never imagine Ivanka ever losing her elegance even when giving one of her employees ****. Jeez, I have become such a fan boy of hers, she's so sharp and on the ball.
I get the frustration regarding Lou and Dayana with them always wanting to be front and center even when it's not appropriate. However, let her carry a friggin' bucket or be one of Clay's arms. What's the harm?

I felt badly for Dayana when Clay and Lisa were going on about the vapid shallow model types. (And I have little appreciation for the vapid shallow model types.) It would be hard not to take that personally when they are attacking her profession even if she doesn't identify herself as vapid or shallow.
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04-16-2012 , 01:58 PM
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She's not nearly funny enough to treat people like this.

Eddie Murphy in the '80s could get away with telling the public to go F themselves. Lisa Lampanelli..... cannot.
She obviously can since she still sells out shows.
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04-16-2012 , 06:04 PM
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I get the frustration regarding Lou and Dayana with them always wanting to be front and center even when it's not appropriate. However, let her carry a friggin' bucket or be one of Clay's arms. What's the harm?

I felt badly for Dayana when Clay and Lisa were going on about the vapid shallow model types. (And I have little appreciation for the vapid shallow model types.) It would be hard not to take that personally when they are attacking her profession even if she doesn't identify herself as vapid or shallow.
It's quite obvious that Lisa has been annoyed for obvious reasons, but she lets it fester inside of her way more than anyone else. I think the frustration of losing so often along with having a lot of complete loser teammates (Victoria, Lou, etc...) has gotten to her and she's lost her mind. This is a pretty high stress game, especially if you are a perfectionist like she appears to be. This is clearly a way of working that she isn't used to. That and being around the poison that is Aubrey, who even being a team player was torture, seems to have really polluted her mind. Dayana isn't as talented as a lot of them and can tend to get in the way, but she's certainly better than a lot of dead weight out there like Lou, Teresa, George, half the women's team, etc... I think Aubrey's insecurities toward anyone who might be considered prettier than her (even the "50 year olds" like Tia, Patricia, and Debbie are better looking than her) certainly made her vicious.
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04-16-2012 , 06:32 PM
Lisa a complete nutjob. Jesus.
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04-16-2012 , 06:42 PM
Lisa has deep seeded insecurity issues. It's Probably where she gets her comedy although I don't find her that funny when compared to great comedians. She seems like a bit of a nasty human being who needs to stop hating on people, but i guess this would leave her with no career.
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04-16-2012 , 07:30 PM
Aubrey is just a pleasure to watch now. She's like a little ray of sunshine in a meadow of insane dandelions.
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04-16-2012 , 08:11 PM
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It's quite obvious that Lisa has been annoyed for obvious reasons, but she lets it fester inside of her way more than anyone else. I think the frustration of losing so often along with having a lot of complete loser teammates (Victoria, Lou, etc...) has gotten to her and she's lost her mind. This is a pretty high stress game, especially if you are a perfectionist like she appears to be. This is clearly a way of working that she isn't used to. That and being around the poison that is Aubrey, who even being a team player was torture, seems to have really polluted her mind. Dayana isn't as talented as a lot of them and can tend to get in the way, but she's certainly better than a lot of dead weight out there like Lou, Teresa, George, half the women's team, etc... I think Aubrey's insecurities toward anyone who might be considered prettier than her (even the "50 year olds" like Tia, Patricia, and Debbie are better looking than her) certainly made her vicious.
LOL at Aubrey being a poison. It's pretty close between her and Clay on who wins it at this point. I don't get a sense of insecurity from Aubrey, or at least its not obvious to me like Lisa's is. She is probably confused as to the degree of celebrity she actually is and has come across as pompous at times because of it. She is also a blurter and fairly blunt, but I don't think she is insecure and vicious as a result.
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04-16-2012 , 08:44 PM
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LOL at Aubrey being a poison. It's pretty close between her and Clay on who wins it at this point. I don't get a sense of insecurity from Aubrey, or at least its not obvious to me like Lisa's is. She is probably confused as to the degree of celebrity she actually is and has come across as pompous at times because of it. She is also a blurter and fairly blunt, but I don't think she is insecure and vicious as a result.
You don't get Aubrey completely overcompensating by constantly talking about how great she is? You do realize that kind of narcissism comes only from a huge hole coming from insecurity.

Lisa's is a bit different, of course, although she of course does it by demeaning others more than pumping herself up. Although Aubrey seems to have it both ways, both demeaning others and pumping herself up to be the greatest thing ever. She's probably even more demeaning than Lisa, in that she attacks a lot of people for no reason at all for the most benign reasons and often times with backhanded compliments. "Teresa's so great, she comes up with all these stupid ideas because she's trying so hard." "Arsenio, maybe you can talk about walking away from the entertainment industry." "Tia, it's amazing someone like you who has been in the industry for 100 years can still look moderately attractive." It's way more subtle and way more digging than Lisa's "You are an idiot and have 5 brain cells".

Put another way, I think Lisa could be reasonable to be around as long as she didn't have people she considers annoying or inferior to be around. For example, put her, Clay, Arsenio, and Penn together, she probably is pretty chill. But Aubrey has to be queen bee, have to have all attention on her, and any threat to that dies. It's a much different complex.

Lisa's definitely someone who respects a certain kind of talent and oblivious to talent outside of that. She doesn't feel threatened by people who she considers intellectual equals. It seems that as long as she's surrounded by people who she considers capable, she can be a team player and doesn't mind having the attention shared. Aubrey definitely cannot have that said about her. It's the whole sorority leader mentality of having to play all these mental games of keeping everyone in line with her.

Of course, Lisa has pretty much had a mental breakdown and is pretty psycho now, but I think she's salvageable in a lot of situations. Aubrey has no environments where she could be worth being around. It's the difference between being the fat girl who was picked on and has huge chips on her shoulders, and being a true sociopath with borderline personality disorder.
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04-16-2012 , 11:38 PM
I'm also no psychiatrist but I think you're projecting a lot of negatives onto Aubrey from your time in a sorority.
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04-17-2012 , 12:02 AM
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Put another way, I think Lisa could be reasonable to be around as long as she didn't have people she considers annoying or inferior to be around.
You must not have seen her chew out Penn and Clay for not going bat**** insane with her toward Dayana moments before a live show.

Lisa finally pissed away any semblance of "I bet she's not a terrible bitch around _____ type people" with that quick trip to crazyville.

If I were Penn I would have literally just got up and left and said "I can't do this show right now. Good luck, Lisa." then got her ass fired. Clay certainly would have backed him up. As would Dayana. Greasa would have had to bring 2 people back... neither of which would not have blamed her for that loss.
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04-17-2012 , 12:06 AM
Lisa thought Aubrey was the best player on her team by far and they ran their team. So according to your theory Lisa thought Aubrey was her equal. According to Lisa this was a situation where Aubrey was worth being around.

Your basically saying that Lisa being put on a team with the strongest players(outside of Aubrey), she would be able to keep her cool. But on a team with lesser talent she couldn't handle it. I would somewhat agree, but I think it just shows that Lisa is a terrible leader and a b1tch. Where as Aubrey seems to be a better leader and utilizes the lesser talented worker bees.

Aubrey likes to take charge and seems to think her ideas are almost always right. But based on what I have seen and the response she has received from execs etc, she is correct.

@The Teresa comment being backhanded. She was just trying to say that yea Teresa is a idiot but she tries hard so she is more of a asset then Paul.

Red hair and googly eyes doesn't make her a psychopath.
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