Seems like exactly what they were trying to do, except they thought Marco was going to be on the show instead of Michael. Still super weak for Michael not to step up. I wonder if him having other sponsors made any difference for not wanting to be too enthusiastic about endorsing Buick in this case. Too bad Adam is gone, he was good TV.

Women's presentation was so bad, although the Lou/Paul Sr. bit was soooo bad. Rigged show gonna be rigged.

My expectation for the thread today was that there would be considerable petulance about Adam getting fired and mention would be made regarding Don Jr.'s 'last week' comment regarding Adam's lost virginity.

Aubrey has grown on me quite a bit. I'm a sucker for funny and intelligent.

I'd like to know wtf Ivanka is thinking with her vomitty cotton candy dress followed by her BR attire consisting of the electric blue sweater that someone's grandma crocheted. Does she think this is good advertising for her clothing line?

rofl, exactly my thoughts. When he was asked in the presentation how it handled it was pretty obvious he thought the car was ****, but you can't fault him for that when he drives cars that could do circles around the Verano. Good on Michael for not endorsing Buick, execs were probably so tilted that they didn't get "free" publicity from him.

You are advertising a brand that has had nothing to do with racing in forever and has not made a performance car since I was a kid (and I am an old man), and a racecar driver is the no-brainer guy for project manager?? Seriously?

I saw a Grand National a couple of weeks ago and it made it brutally present how very long it has been since they made that car.

With a business brain like that it isn't hard to guess how Trump has even managed to fail in the Casino business.

From what I've read, Andretti had a 450k donor in his pocket waiting for a fundraising task. Also, generally speaking, there could probably be a conflict of interest in the contestants endorsing a product. He probably was pretty hesitant to jump up to be PM cause of this.

Andretti really doesn't seem to be doing much, whether it be selective editing or just him, so him getting fired really isn't that surprising.

I'll admit I got quite a few laughs from Aubrey this week, but probably 1/2 were with her and the other 1/2 was at her.

Yeah, I thought of this, if you have big donors, just wait for a fundraising task. Seemed like he didn't want to do it now in the hopes a fundraising one would come up later.

He doesn't seem to be doing much because he's a quiet guy, isn't terrible funny, and isn't a trainwreck. That's who makes good TV. Andretti made terrible TV. But no one had anything bad to say about his work ever, so I don't think he was doing nothing. Although doing nothing would be better than Lou, who is a disaster.

Teams are actually reasonably fair now that Carolla is off, men are still stuck with Lou, and a lot of the women's dead weight is gone. Obviously men are gonna win this week if Trump can rig it so Lou can stick around longer, so Tia or Jersey Housewife is probably next on the block.

Here's how I wish the conversation had gone:

Trump: Adam, who do you want to bring back?
Adam: Nobody, shir, I think I did da besht jab I could and if it washn't good enough then I should go.
Trump: So does this mean you are leaving the show?
Adam: No, shir.
Trump: If you don't select two people then I would have no choice but to fire you, which means you are choosing to leave the show.
Adam: I'm not leaving the show, shir. I am here for my charity.
Trump: But you aren't fighting for your charity. If you don't give me two names in the next thirty seconds then you are choosing to leave and we'll say goodbye to you.
Adam: Well I'm not choosing to leave and I do want to fight for my charity so I guess I'll bring back Lou and, well, just Lou.

I cracked up when the men were leaving the presentation and Clay tells Adam "That was so good...I have an erection now" or similar

It's not about the name Andretti, it's about them recording footage of how Andretti would devise ways to think about what to present. You see Carrola is always thinking how do I make this funny, Andretti would be testing the car and thinking about safety or performance and Buick wants an infomercial during prime time.

I think someone mentioned how Andretti was waiting for a fundraising challenge well I think Adam was waiting for a presentation cuz he thought he could nail it and it was easy for him.

No way Andretti should have went out and given a glowing endorsement of the Buick if:
A) He didn't actually think the car was very good
B) Buick never directly pursued him for an endorsement, only attempted to buy a 'challenge' spot with Trump/NBC to get an Andretti endorsement without actually paying him.

And just because the result was him and Adam getting kicked off the show it doesn't mean he did wrong, only that the Buick execs and Trump are very capable of getting butthurt when people don't roll over on their command.

Don Jr. does seem to have quite the ego for someone who's opulent lifestyle is 100% provided to him from the teat of nepotism.

AC is on Leno tonight

Would have to watch Leno tho

Carolla said he will cover what really went down on Tuesdays podcast.

lol, just watched the show, very happy Lou is staying Adam ****ed up and Andretti was worthless

also laughed my ass off when Penn told that joke about being in the back seat of a car in New York when that mob daughter had already been kicked off of the show

Adam Carolla tonight:

Buick execs = ***holes, plain and simple.

trump's producer told the mens team to do a 'Steve Jobs type' single man presentation (off camera, obv they aren't gonna show the producer on the show. The Steve Jobs 60 minutes piece was the day before btw), implying a lack of sharing the stage between all the members, but this was later a big criticism of Trump's.

The Paul Tuttell bit was edited intensely, that bit actually got a laugh from the crowd and flowed fine.

When asked who should be fired, Adam said it should be the above mentioned producer at first, then told Trump he was done with the show.

If Aubrey was more polished people would love her, except for looking like a dumbass she's coming across well.
I'm glad he kept Lou, next week will be a disaster unless Penn takes over which I doubt he will.

Aubrey hate has nothing to do with being polished, it has to do with her being so full of herself for the dumbest reasons. Although her hating on Debbie is enough to make me enjoy her more than someone.

I'm willing to bet the task next week the Men win if it's riggable. Trump wants to keep the drama, and it's not that hard to have the team do a good job. If Lou goes, way too much warm and fuzzies from the rest, so he has to stay.

What I don't get is, if Trump is rigging the outcome (and there's no doubt whatsoever that he is almost all the time especially when it's "judged" off-camera), why in the world would he rig it so there is any chance at all of Corolla being bounced? It makes no sense. Debbie Gibson or most women on the show for that matter wouldn't be missed, but from an entertainment and audience familiarity perspective Corolla trumps pretty much everyone on the show except maybe Penn.

Another thing, is there "sequesterville" on the celeb versions? In a lot of shows including the non-celebrity version of this one, when someone is eliminated they don't get to go home, they have to go hang out with the other losers so as to not reveal the time of their elimination. Maybe that's not the case here, so guys like Andretti and Corolla who want to be somewhere else can just tank so they get bounced and leave.

I truly believe that Trump wanted to fire Andretti as soon as he passed on being PM. In that sense I think it was rigged in that the men were going to lose and Trump was going to harp on Andretti not taking this task that was "right up his alley" almost regardless of presentation.

BUT, when they got in the boardroom Adam just didn't give him anything to work with. Pretty much the only thing the show has been consistent with, at least in my memory, is that if you shoulder all the blame as the PM and refuse to bring people back to be fired, you're gone.

Adam pretty much forced Trump to fire him. I don't think Trump wanted to fire Adam for the reasons already mentioned, but he was put in a position where the show loses too much credibility if he allows a PM to stay after he takes all the blame and says point blank that he's not bringing 2 people back after it's revealed he lost.

His hands were tied.

Pretty sure there is, because they film all of the car exits at once. I suppose they could fly them all back for that. Although maybe the walking to the car is done right away, and the rides in the car is when it actually happens.

I was pretty convinced that Trump was going to fire Lou and Andretti so that he could keep Adam. But it really looks from Adam's interviews he basically told Trump the show was a pile of **** and he wanted off of it because of the riggage.

To add to the "riggedness" of the show, most of the celebs actually negotiate contracts with the producers before signing to be on the show that they will appear in "x" many episodes. For some it's for a guaranteed minimum so that they can be promised a certain amount of exposure, and for others, it's a guaranteed maximum since they don't really want to do the show or commit that much time, but just want a chance to raise money for a charity and then get back to their lives.

lol @ "guaranteed maximum". Ugh.

I figured there was sequesterville in the season Darryl Strawberry was on because he came off as incredibly lazy and basically begged off the show, presumably just to hang out in hiding and wait for production to end.

There are certain contestants - Marlee Matlin comes to mind - who seem extremely motivated to raise money and awareness for their charities and otherwise seem to want to be there, but just as many seem like lazy POS who don't really care all that much.

Seems like this season there really aren't too many that don't care. The only ones that strike me that way were Tiegs, Adam, and maybe Tia. I think everyone else wanted to be there. Although Adam could just have gotten pissed and tilted that they lost.