Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Breaking Bad: season 5 Breaking Bad: season 5

07-23-2012 , 10:39 PM
The real question is: why does it matter (and why does it keep getting brought up)?
07-23-2012 , 10:47 PM
I think with Saul people are confusing his supposed morality with the fact that deep down he's a pussy. He's happy to dip his toes in but doesn't have it in him to fully immerse himself...this doesn't equal a set of morals IMO
07-23-2012 , 10:48 PM
I thought it was obvious he was gay. <shrug>


A guestion about this week's episode:

In the scene where Walt messes with the ricin cig and we hear the old conversation between him and Jesse, why did it sound like he was listening to a recording? It wasn't just a normal VO. It had the sound of a tape being replayed.
07-23-2012 , 10:49 PM
Wonderful to see we're back to this ridiculous debate yet again.

I don't believe you're going to make me do this, but..

07-23-2012 , 10:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dominic
I thought it was obvious he was gay. <shrug>


A guestion about this week's episode:

In the scene where Walt messes with the ricin cig and we hear the old conversation between him and Jesse, why did it sound like he was listening to a recording? It wasn't just a normal VO. It had the sound of a tape being replayed.
I too thought it sounded odd but I think it was just a voice over.
07-23-2012 , 10:54 PM
Just watched The Caine Mutiny, the movie Mike was watching. Pretty good movie actually, recommend watching it.

Humphrey Bogart plays a paranoid perfectionist control freak. Sound familiar?
07-23-2012 , 10:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dominic
In the scene where Walt messes with the ricin cig and we hear the old conversation between him and Jesse, why did it sound like he was listening to a recording? It wasn't just a normal VO. It had the sound of a tape being replayed.
Oh that's really good. I think you're right.
07-23-2012 , 10:55 PM
I watched it again and it had the The sound of a recording being played back. Intentionally.
07-23-2012 , 10:58 PM
When I first watched it, it confused me because I thought Walt was actually listening to a recording.
07-23-2012 , 10:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dominic
I watched it again and it had the The sound of a recording being played back. Intentionally.
Hmm I just listened again too. I think you are right.
07-23-2012 , 11:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dominic
I watched it again and it had the The sound of a recording being played back. Intentionally.
You're absolutely right. Who's making the recording? Hank? Would explain his weird look when his soon to be ex boss is talking about Gus being someone else right under his nose.
07-23-2012 , 11:06 PM
Yea definitely noticed that. Not sure if it's because such a tape exists or just to give the feel that Walt was "playing it back" in his brain so he could find and tie off all loose ends of that particular lie.
07-23-2012 , 11:25 PM
good stuff with mike
07-23-2012 , 11:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bbfg
-The other guy that got killed seemed like an assasin. Do we know him? This seems to indicate there was more security in the operation other than Mike and his partners, which is kinda weird given how Gus was basicly at war during S4 and we never met him.
Quote:
Originally Posted by nath
He was one of Mike's operatives / henchmen. He turned on Mike because he needed the money.
From reddit, we see him in s4:



Also:

Quote:
He was also present with Tyrus when Tyrus tazed Walt out side of Jesse's house (Crawl Space). Also in the same episode he is in the Desert with Gus and Tyrus when Gus tells Walt, "I will kill your infant daughter".
07-23-2012 , 11:43 PM
I thought the Walt/Jesse voiceover sounded more like a phone conversation than a tape being played back.
07-23-2012 , 11:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by K.O.S.
The real question is: why does it matter (and why does it keep getting brought up)?
Surely Gus' sexuality is a more interesting topic of debate than "magnets, how do they work", no?

It probably didn't matter at all to Walt or Jesse or Mike, but Gus being gay would certainly have made a difference to the cartel guys with their Latin machismo. I don't remember specifics, but I think at least a couple different times Tio and/or Don Eladio were dismissive with Gus and referred to him being "less than a man" or something. I thought "What kind of a man talks to the DEA?" was a callback to something Tio had said to Gus, but I could be misremembering.

So regardless of whether we get any more backstory on Gus or any Chilean or cartel dudes appear in future episodes, Gus' sexuality would definitely have made a difference south of the border.
07-23-2012 , 11:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by THE F DO
I thought the Walt/Jesse voiceover sounded more like a phone conversation than a tape being played back.
Yes, but both sides of the conversation sounded like a phone conversation.
07-23-2012 , 11:50 PM
Why the hell are you guys debating something that Gilligan has said was intentionally ambiguous? Dueling speculation where we know no answer exists is really pointless.
07-23-2012 , 11:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mjkidd
Yes, but both sides of the conversation sounded like a phone conversation.
That could be intentional, or it could just be a bad choice by the audio guy. Again, the whole Gale thing where they didn't intended it to look like it did.

It makes so much more sense that they just wanted to make it sound like a phone call so they used phone-y audio for both sides than any weird hint about people being tapped.
07-23-2012 , 11:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dids
Why the hell are you guys debating something that Gilligan has said was intentionally ambiguous? Dueling speculation where we know no answer exists is really pointless.
we don't all know that captain know it all. I don't read tv blogs. I doubt many people do.
07-23-2012 , 11:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mjkidd
Yes, but both sides of the conversation sounded like a phone conversation.
I think that makes sense for a VO.
07-24-2012 , 12:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kidcolin
we don't all know that captain know it all. I don't read tv blogs. I doubt many people do.
It's been posted in this very thread though- before this conversation broke out.
07-24-2012 , 12:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thesteve
Why didn't Walt just throw away the ricin besides it being a tv show?
It takes work to make and he may need to kills somebody later with little notice.
07-24-2012 , 12:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dids
Why the hell are you guys debating something that Gilligan has said was intentionally ambiguous? Dueling speculation where we know no answer exists is really pointless.
Because questions with T/F answers don't make for interesting debates. How is that even a question?

This being an Internet forum, I wouldn't really expect to change anyone's opinion without a clear "gotcha!" moment, but there still exists the possibility for people with opposing viewpoints to bring up interesting reasoning/evidence or tangential points, even if no one will ever budge from their originally stated dogmatic opinion.
07-24-2012 , 12:16 AM
But there is a clear answer here. The answer is "it was intentionally ambiguous". Sure, debating questions without answers is fun and does make for a better debate. That's not what this is.

      
m