I thought that Walt was sincerely sorry. Walt realizes this whole thing could have been avoided, and imo in that moment he wishes it was avoided.

Maybe Walt should have realized sooner that he could get the names from Lydia. Maybe he was obsessed with getting something else from Mike, like a feeling of control. I'd like to think Walt wants Mike to give him the names as a sign that Mike considers Walt to be in charge.

I see Walt as similar to Colonel Jessup from A Few Good Men at this point. He feels he's earned respect because God damn it, he killed Fring, he's Heisenberg. He got Mike the 5 mil, saved him from being arrested and then got him his bag. I think Walt wants Mike to say "Thank you, here are the names of my nine guys, you are the boss, do what a boss has to do." Walt would then feel in control and maybe no one else gets hurt.

Instead, Mike insults Walt, and tells him if he had known his place, just being a cook and not the boss, they'd all be fine. That was just too much for Walt and he detonates. Which makes Mike's episode one comment ironic.




Walt wants to be in control and instead he loses it. Mike didn't want to be around for the boom and instead he inadvertently lit up the fuse. Also with his last words Mike tells him to "Shut the **** up." Walt has two guns yet the dying guy he's shot is telling him what to do.

epic fo sho

I hate to "break" it to you, but the show is called Breaking Bad because it's about the transformation of Walter White and how that affects the people around him.

BB is about the characters. It's not about the minutiae of realistic back-and-forth between the DEA/drug dealers/lawyers. Cooking meth is just a device to tell a compelling story and hopefully in the process make some observations about human nature.

So yeah, we probably haven't seen the last scene between Walt and someone who is/was as close to him as his wife.

I am pretty sure that is exactly what he was saying.

Not enough Saul for my liking this season. 6/10

Dude, maybe you should just watch the show. But fwiw you forgot Walt's cancer, wrapping up Madrigal, why a year passes between now and the end of the series, why Walt is eating alone in Conneticut or whatever on his 52nd birthday and why his birthday present is an M60.

Will never fit!!! Maybe it wont. But just looking at that list and saying "yeah this will never work" is just stupid. You are not a tv writer and you are not a writer for breaking bad. Do you really think they wrote the opening scene with S5 with no plan on how all 16 episodes of S5 were going to play out?

And where does Denny's tie in?

Gilligan said that season 3 was written on the fly. It's not all written like a really long movie. Gilligan has stated that they have written themselves into corners that they later had to get themselves out of.

That said I'm pretty sure he's also stated that there is an end game in mind. They know how they want to finish the show.

Lydia is unnecessary, so is flipped lawyer. Mike's guys will take half a song. Not sure why you think this long list is impossible in one episode.

You mean the pic that hank was all distracted looking at?

Yes I know they don't plan ahead much but I think they at least made a list what they wanted to do with 16 episodes, and then split it between the 2 8-blocks. Obv they haven't written all 16 episodes, but they know what needs to happen in the second block at least imo.

EDIT: esp given the flash forward. They wouldn't write like that if they didn't know how they were going to get there. Nobody is that crazy.

There are nine episodes left. If it was one episode, I think it would be impossible to wrap everything up. Even with nine episodes, I agree that things are getting crammed.

Yeah obv I thought he meant they needed to build more tension before the break.

no i mean if hank finds out about hank now why does walt need the machine gun?

That's because they are going to show how we get there and then wrap it up.

I think the gun will not be to kill Hank. I just thought about it a bit and I think for me most likely explanation at this point the new cartel is going to screw Walt over and Walt has nothing left and chooses to take revenge. But whatever it is, we can't be even remotely sure what it's going to be at this time.

Not sure what you're getting at, but yeah obv that is the very ending of the series, ep 15 or ep 16, not sooner. But they obv also have an idea what they need to do in the other 6-7 eps from the second half.

Since a lot of people are complaining about Walt beeing a full-blown villain now, let us remember how he became that man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuN-70bICR4

I`m sure everyone here knows this video, but watch it again. It is so damn great.

pretty sure he was being facetious

I've enjoyed this season but part of me wishes they had just ended the series w the s4 finale. def agreed that all of this stuff will be rushed now w only 9 eps left

I am in a debate with others on another forum that has a thread that discusses BB. A member wants everyone to post things in spoilers such as mike dying or other big events. So a mod changed the title to "use spoiler tags". This is really ****ing dumb right? Once its aired its fair game to discuss with out spoiler tags.

Here is a list of their reasons to use spoiler tags. BB is the only thread this seems to be an issue with there.

If you're so into the show that you're looking at casting and art work, why the hell aren't you watching the episode within 24h of its air time? Just avoid the thread after 10pm Sunday until you see the episode.

Yeah, the main purpous of a show thread is to discuss the show. Any rule other than "once it's broadcast, it's not a spoiler anymore" is going to be
-irritating for the biggest fans, which are the biggest contributers too, because they have to resort to using spoilers for things that almost everyone in the thread has seen.
-a bitch to moderate. Any other rule you use will be hard to enforce by the moderators, and will lead to moderations seeming unfair etc.

Just a huge hassle all in all. Stupid decision. If I'm watching a show behind pace and I want to read the thread I go to TV.com, see when the episode I'm at aired and make sure I don't skip that date. Not that hard.

If its aired its free game makes the most sense , if you avoid previews, and every thing else then you should probably be avoiding this thread anyway imo. I am not trying to drive people away but I'm also a firm believer in personal responsibility for you own TV enjoyment.
That said, those rules above, just wow

This will happen Imo

I don't know what you guys are watching, but after all these seasons I just can't see how jesse can bang skyler. this is not the o.c.
this would be as anti-climatic as the last episodes of dexter, if you know what I mean.