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I think the question was more related to the fact that they were pumping water in at the same time they were taking the methlamine out, possibly diluting the chemical before they got it out of the tank.

Correct. The show also acknowledged that water is denser than methylamine. Thus, it would not float on top of the tank. Just one of a million plot holes in this episode.

08-14-2012 , 07:04 PM

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Correct. The show also acknowledged that water is denser than methylamine. Thus, it would not float on top of the tank. Just one of a million plot holes in this episode.

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08-14-2012 , 07:06 PM

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But WHO knows that tarantulas aren't dangerous???

I'd assume the majority of educated people know this—not like 95%+, but >50% for sure. Either way, it's not a big deal; change though in my post to if and the point stands. Dangerous is relative too, I guess. "Not anywhere as dangerous as your typical big-ass spider, unless you are allergic" is a nittily specific way to put it.

08-14-2012 , 07:35 PM

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just like in Pants.

Beat me to it, you equine posterior!

08-14-2012 , 08:20 PM

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Correct. The show also acknowledged that water is denser than methylamine. Thus, it would not float on top of the tank. Just one of a million plot holes in this episode.

How is that a plot hole?

08-14-2012 , 08:30 PM

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How is that a plot hole?

I don't want to derail the thread with nits more than have already been said, but physics and Heisenberg's exacting standards.

08-14-2012 , 08:38 PM

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The show also acknowledged that water is denser than methylamine.
Thus, it would not float on top of the tank. Just one of a million plot holes in this episode.

They also said methylamine is water based.

So it won't float on top or sink to the bottom. It will mix with and dilute the methylamine.

900 gallons of water into 24000 gallons will take a while to mix completely.

Getting 1000 gallons undiluted out of the bottom is not totally unrealistic.

No plot hole.

08-14-2012 , 08:39 PM

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They had about 33% of pure methylamine before they even started to pump water in, so the water might dilute the other 66% then we take into account they were taking from the very bottom so maybe only 30% got dilluted and only slightly. Not a big deal, Gale is dead.

08-14-2012 , 08:51 PM

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I don't want to derail the thread with nits more than have already been said, but physics and Heisenberg's exacting standards.

In addition to the other answers, Walt's exacting standards are why it isn't a big deal even if it's slightly diluted because he'll know how to adjust the process.

08-14-2012 , 08:52 PM

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Anyone else think Walt is going to nail Lydia?I thought Jesse at first but now I see Walt is more likely as he is the main man and women like Lydia love the alpha male type and they both have a mutual problem in Mike.

08-14-2012 , 08:56 PM

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wp, I lol'd

08-14-2012 , 09:03 PM

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Just to back you up...

From the insider podcast (podcast with Vince Gilligan and other crew) the writer of this episode said that they consulted with a chemist for this exact question. The chemist did the math. He found out that 1000 gallons of water poured into the top of a tanker containing 24,000 gallons of methylamine would take too long to get to the bottom. It wouldn't dilute the methylamine that they're removing.

Yeah science!

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08-14-2012 , 09:10 PM

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Just to back you up...

From the insider podcast (podcast with Vince Gilligan and other crew) the writer of this episode said that they consulted with a chemist for this exact question. The chemist did the math and found out that 1000 gallons of water poured into the top of a tanker containing 24,000 gallons of methylamine would take too long to get to the bottom of the tank to dilute the methylamine that they're removing.

Yeah science!

But someone here said it was a plothole... I don't know who to believe!!!

08-14-2012 , 09:13 PM

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Technically it was a plothole. The chemicals were a big part of the plot, and they were pumped into a hole.

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08-14-2012 , 09:36 PM

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Technically it was a plothole. The chemicals were a big part of the plot, and they were pumped into a hole.

Found another one:

08-14-2012 , 09:59 PM

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This couldn't matter less, but people have referred to Lydia's "condo" several times ITT, it looked like a big modern house to me.

Did you notice the city lights view out of Lydia's window?

Houston is a very flat city, the only place you will find such an elevated view is from a high rise condo/apt building.

08-14-2012 , 10:23 PM

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I don't want to derail the thread with nits more than have already been said, but physics and Heisenberg's exacting standards.

OK, for one thing, Walt isn't a real person. The writers create his exacting standards.

They also create the "rules" of how you make meth in their universe. Maybe all the water gets boiled out of the methylmine in the process. Maybe Walt knows how to filter the active ingredients out.

We know Walt has exacting standards, but we also know he didn't care about the dilution. Ergo, this isn't a plot hole.

08-14-2012 , 10:23 PM

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haha this sounds incredible to me right now.

sometimes i feel like i'm the only one that just watches the show and enjoys it without trying to figure out how it ends or what's going to happen next. i understand that that's how others may enhance their enjoyment... just saying, i don't waste my time. and i'm actually a very analytical person in general! just not with tv shows/movies/stuff like that.

maybe because the last thing i want is to actually come up with what's gonna happen way down the road or some theory of the ending AND BE RIGHT. sounds awful! yet you got people who propose ******ed theory after ******ed theory, like monkeys flinging **** against a wall, just in case one sticks and they can go back later and quote themselves. whatever blows your hair back guys.

i think i like this show a ton moar when i avoid this show. this is my first time stepping in here and i think i wont come back after finishing this bit up.

08-14-2012 , 10:36 PM

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i think i like this show a ton moar when i avoid this show. this is my first time stepping in here and i think i wont come back after finishing this bit up.

This is how I feel about Lost, I enjoy it more because I've avoided it.

08-14-2012 , 10:40 PM

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I'm very familiar with the possibility of different rules of physics of different universes, but not within the universe of a TV series. Perhaps this is a plot hole in my life. I was unaware that we should assume that all TV shows are from a separate universe with own rules of physics. My bad.

08-14-2012 , 10:47 PM

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Wait... wasn't that guy in the pickup truck Tortuga (Danny Trejo)?
Surely he survived being decapitated and having his head blown off?

08-14-2012 , 10:49 PM

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Duh, he was driving a truck, not a turtle.

Moran.

08-14-2012 , 10:57 PM

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They also create the "rules" of how you make meth in their universe.

Especially true since I posted that link showing how to make methylamine on a kitchen stove.

08-14-2012 , 11:02 PM

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Did you notice the city lights view out of Lydia's window?

Houston is a very flat city, the only place you will find such an elevated view is from a high rise condo/apt building.

Here's a guy who is really dedicated to Breaking Bad location information. He says it's a house in NM: http://marcvaldez.blogspot.com/2011/...ns-part-5.html

Imo it's clearly a house.