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10-11-2019 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by bbfg
Read a good analysis of the trailer somewhere.

It looks like Jesse is making amends (burrying up Hank & Gomez so they can be burried?), and he might have some "demons/hallucinations", which could be how Mike appears.
lol internet



before i watched this i thought 'i'm sure it will be pretty good but there's no reason for it to exist'.

after i watched it i thought 'jesus, am i ever wrong?'

i liked it. it's just fun to watch stuff the BB/BCS crew have made. they do certain things so well, and it's always just visually beautiful.
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10-11-2019 , 12:29 PM
I enjoyed it. I didn’t mind that it was so flashback heavy mainly because Todd is such a great character; when he was driving and singing along then tried to get the truck driver to honk his horn I had to pause it cos I was laughing so hard.
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10-11-2019 , 03:39 PM
Yea, it was ok. I liked it.
But wait, what about the Trailer with Skinny Pete at the police station?
Did I miss that part?
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10-11-2019 , 04:30 PM
I also can't believe they didn't reveal what happened to Huell!
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10-11-2019 , 04:31 PM
Just footage for the trailer only I guess.

I enjoyed it. Don't necessarily agree that it felt unnecessary.

I didn't finish my rewatch on time, but I remember the ending of BB (=everything after Jesse is kidnapped) felt a bit rushed, I think the flashbacks filled this up quite nicely, and then gave Jesse's arc a satisfying ending.

I like how they didn't add a lot to the story, more like Vince filled up some holes he didn't like and gave it a proper ending.

Nothing highly memorable, but wasn't bored or annoyed for a second. And stayed very true to BB with slow, tense scenes.

Also, didn't know credits song and am really enjoying it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2DyPVDIpTM
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10-11-2019 , 04:34 PM
Also only thing that kind of confused me was Walt saying "you're really lucky you know... you didn't have to wait your whole life to do something special".

Was this Vince's way of saying "if you don't think Walt is a bad guy, you're wrong" ?
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10-11-2019 , 04:39 PM
Man, I thought it was excellent. Props to all involved. Meditative yet fraught with tension at the same time. Loved it.
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10-11-2019 , 05:20 PM
First half was a bit Todd-heavy for my tastes, but apparently people really like Todd.

Should have made Huell the stripper bodyguard instead of man mountain.

Thought it was a bit far-fetched that the fake cop didn't just club Jesse over the head when he demanded the money.



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10-11-2019 , 05:25 PM
Did anyone here shed a tear while watching El Camino?

If your answer is "yes" please type "I cried".

Nothing wrong with crying. If you can tell us why you cried feel free to describe the reasons. It does not have to be a major cry. A tiny drop of tear qualifies.
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10-11-2019 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by karamazonk
Not really sure why Gilligan wanted to make this movie.
Did Netflix back up the truck?

Enjoyed it. Was a little skeptical at the beginning, but by the end they pulled me in hardcore.
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10-11-2019 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Guy Incognito
First half was a bit Todd-heavy for my tastes, but apparently people really like Todd.

Should have made Huell the stripper bodyguard instead of man mountain.

Thought it was a bit far-fetched that the fake cop didn't just club Jesse over the head when he demanded the money.
I find it far-fetched that you think it's easy to club someone over the head and knock them out without any fuss.
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10-11-2019 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
I find it far-fetched that you think it's easy to club someone over the head and knock them out without any fuss.
You if anyone should know that sort of thing happens all the time in TV/movies. Furthermore, it's a big guy with a big gun against a much smaller man in an already weakened condition. That scenario is far more likely than the dude just shrugging off 200K+

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10-11-2019 , 08:21 PM
Wow. What a terrible, terrible movie that was. Can't believe some of the takes here. Half of the plot was complete nonsense and the part that was kind of ok still had no business forming the core part of a movie. The whole thing offered virtually nothing new but instead just showcased all the characters for a designated few minutes of pointless screen time like a prolonged commercial for the BB world.

I was skeptical about BCS too, but that actually works great even as a standalone show. This one was pure trash. I mean, nice cinematography/production value as per usual, but other than that it was basically somewhere between a pointless Gilligan ego trip and an attempt to milk the cash cow once more.
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10-11-2019 , 08:57 PM
it sounds like you were expecting a movie, which is completely understandable. i agree that it’s not a good movie.

if you instead think of it as a couple of additional episodes that they didn’t make at the time for various reasons then I think it’s very enjoyable.
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10-11-2019 , 09:04 PM
It's just that Jesse is a big pussy. Twice he had the gun and both times handed it over like a wimp.

Vs Todd, he would have had plenty of time to go get Brock or whatever, without anyone killing him. And then vs the supposed cops, he gave them the gun, then of course the guy gives him 200k or whatever, yea ok. Then he kills those guys anyway. lol
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10-11-2019 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Man, I thought it was excellent. Props to all involved. Meditative yet fraught with tension at the same time. Loved it.
This.

This was an elite movie. Badger and Skinny Pete were so so good. The “cops” scene was very good, and the 911 fakeout was great.

I loved the way the story unfolded with the flashbacks. Especially the ones regarding Todd’s hidden loot.
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10-11-2019 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Bass
Wow. What a terrible, terrible movie that was. Can't believe some of the takes here. Half of the plot was complete nonsense and the part that was kind of ok still had no business forming the core part of a movie. The whole thing offered virtually nothing new but instead just showcased all the characters for a designated few minutes of pointless screen time like a prolonged commercial for the BB world.

I was skeptical about BCS too, but that actually works great even as a standalone show. This one was pure trash. I mean, nice cinematography/production value as per usual, but other than that it was basically somewhere between a pointless Gilligan ego trip and an attempt to milk the cash cow once more.
I don’t say this lightly: you’re ****ing ******ed.
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10-11-2019 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
It's just that Jesse is a big pussy. Twice he had the gun and both times handed it over like a wimp.

Vs Todd, he would have had plenty of time to go get Brock or whatever, without anyone killing him. And then vs the supposed cops, he gave them the gun, then of course the guy gives him 200k or whatever, yea ok. Then he kills those guys anyway. lol
Another terrible taek.

Jesse having a heart makes him a great character.
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10-11-2019 , 10:28 PM
He has a heart but has murdered a bunch of people and others have died because of him.
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10-11-2019 , 10:47 PM
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He has a heart but has murdered a bunch of people and others have died because of him.
Right?
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10-11-2019 , 10:54 PM
I was expecting way more tbh, it was cool & all but i could've lived without seeing El Camino.
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10-12-2019 , 12:29 AM
El Camino was good. It told the end of Jesse Pinkman's story in the way most fans wanted to see it.

The Skinny Pete and Badger scenes may have been the strongest. Though, Skinny Pete seems a lot smarter now. (Jesse definitely shouldn't have shaved).

Todd's a strange kind of sociopath. His non-chalantness about killing innocent people is a unique kind of creepy. When Jesse had Todd's gun, I was sure the gun wasn't loaded and it was simply some kind of Todd-game.

The Walter and Jane scenes weren't necessary but understandable fan service.

The one scene I didn't like was the traditional Mexican standoff. It's dumb writing. Neil (of Kandy Welding) would have shot Jesse at the first opportunity without playing out a cliche movie scene.




In the broader picture, I still say the idea of giving Breaking Bad's main characters relatively happy endings is conceptually wrong. Walter shouldn't have succeeded in providing for his kids, wiping out his enemies, and reveling in his notoriety. Likewise, Jesse shouldn't have been able to choose a new life the way Mike, Walter, and Jane wanted him to.

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Originally Posted by Dynasty
I marathoned the show from beginning to end and wanted it to end in total disaster for all the characters. For a while in the final season, I thought that might happen. Some characters got harsh endings, but not nearly enough for my preferences.

I would have done something like this.

Jesse: Meth cook slave indefinitely, eventually murdered
Skyler: Convicted and imprisoned for money laundering, etc.
Hank: Murdered, buried in desert never to be found (along with Gomez)
Marie: loses Hank and Skyler
Flynn/Walt Jr.: Forever hating his parents, possibly a meth addict
Holly: meth addict, possibly the new "Wendy"
Saul: murdered? imprisoned? either will do
Mike: murdered by Walt was good

Walt: cancer survivor; lives long life in prison knowing what he's done to everyone he cares about; possible final scene of series is adult Holly (meth head new "Wendy") visiting him in prison

Of course, Walt's kids never get any money. It can be entirely stolen by the Nazis. Or, the final barrel can be kept by Elliot and Getchen or stolen by Skinny Pete and Badger.
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10-12-2019 , 01:11 AM
Walter having a relatively happy ending is no less implausible than his

1. Escaping from and outwitting Tuco
2. Escaping from and outwitting Gus
3. Facilitating the disposition of his funds to his children

One might say it’s actually consistent with his character to create a relatively happy ending for himself by freeing Jesse and dying with some dignity.

Jesse is a somewhat more suspect survivor, but his long standing fidelity to his friends was paid back in spades, which was critical to his survival. In addition, the movie does a great job, thru flashback, of establishing just how strong Jesse’s memory is which allows him to (1)find Todd’s money; (2)know how to handle the Nazi confederates; and (3)hook up with the disappearing guy. It’s all logically consistent.
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10-12-2019 , 01:57 AM
Very sad news!!!

Robert Forster, the actor that played the vacuum cleaner store owner and disappearance guy, died on October 11, 2019, the day El Camino was released.

Here is his Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Forster

I discovered this while typing this:

Why can't Jesse just keep the whole money and figure it out for himself how to hide himself instead of relying on someone else?

Follow up edit:

Turns out Robert Forster died less than 2 hours before I wrote this post! RIP vacuum cleaner guy...

https://www.tmz.com/2019/10/11/obert...own-el-camino/

Last edited by Registered 2018; 10-12-2019 at 02:08 AM.
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10-12-2019 , 02:01 AM
Sure he could try, but he wouldn't have a new identity, with license, SSN, vehicle with tag registered to him, back story etc. and a very safe location. He could even get caught trying to leave town on his own.
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