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06-03-2021 , 06:02 PM
I just rewatched the final season and my favorite episode is always the one Hank gets whacked, that smug bastard. I got to thinking man I would have liked it if they got Marie too and Skyler needed to go too
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06-03-2021 , 06:13 PM
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06-03-2021 , 06:54 PM
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06-04-2021 , 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by unlucky4me
I just rewatched the final season and my favorite episode is always the one Hank gets whacked, that smug bastard. I got to thinking man I would have liked it if they got Marie too and Skyler needed to go too
Not dark enough.


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I marathoned the show from beginning to end and wanted it to end in total disaster for all the characters. For a while in the final season, I thought that might happen. Some characters got harsh endings, but not nearly enough for my preferences.

I would have done something like this.

Jesse: Meth cook slave indefinitely, eventually murdered
Skyler: Convicted and imprisoned for money laundering, etc.
Hank: Murdered, buried in desert never to be found (along with Gomez)
Marie: loses Hank and Skyler
Flynn/Walt Jr.: Forever hating his parents, possibly a meth addict
Holly: meth addict, possibly the new "Wendy"
Saul: murdered? imprisoned? either will do
Mike: murdered by Walt was good

Walt: cancer survivor; lives long life in prison knowing what he's done to everyone he cares about; possible final scene of series is adult Holly (meth head new "Wendy") visiting him in prison

Of course, Walt's kids never get any money. It can be entirely stolen by the Nazis. Or, the final barrel can be kept by Elliot and Getchen or stolen by Skinny Pete and Badger
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06-07-2021 , 07:10 PM
Now that's what I'm talking about up there
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01-30-2022 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by esad
Has anyone confirmed yet if that was really Lydia at the car wash or Lydia's twin?
rofl

Reading old threads while rewatching this is entertaining af.
Anyway, what would you guys guess....how many times did the person with the most rewatches on this planet watch BB?
There must be some person with 25+ sessions of watching BB, right?
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01-31-2022 , 12:19 PM
I would take the over, although that is a lot of TV watching.

There are 62 episodes at lets say 45 minutes each. That is almost two full days of TV for each watch. So 25+ is almost two full months of your life watching BB.
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07-16-2022 , 06:27 AM
Made a deal with the girlfriend that I would marathon Stranger Things with her if she marathon’d this with me since she hadn’t seen this yet.

We’re in season 4 and obviously she loves it. But aside from the sympathy for Walt’s diagnosis, she’s was barely on his side from the beginning. And not at all mid-season 2.

Which made me think…. When was I off team Walt? I don’t think it was until the final season…. Even the end of season 4, I was still mostly rooting for him…

The final season should be fun to watch her watch lol She absolutely loves Jesse and as on edge as I was during the final 8, she’s gonna be destroyed….
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07-16-2022 , 11:39 AM
lol @ falling off team-walt

HE WAS DOING IT FOR THE FAMILY
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07-16-2022 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by #Thinman
lol @ falling off team-walt

HE WAS DOING IT FOR THE FAMILY
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07-23-2022 , 04:22 PM
**** walt

i was off team walt first episode when he threatened to call the cops on jesse. that's just a total bullshit move
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07-23-2022 , 10:28 PM
That’s pretty much when my girlfriend checked out on him as well lol

All that’s left for us is the finale and El Camino. It’s been a great vicarious experience. Her critique of Ozymandias was amazing!! “You ever hear about something from so many people and it gets so built up that you’re positive it won’t hold up?? It was even better than that!!”

Also, she almost rage quit after Andrea got shot. I haven’t asked her how dark she expects the finale to be but I think she’ll appreciate that the entire finale is really toned down from what it seemed like it would be. She’s on edge far more than I was but she’s not having to suffer the week long waits.
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07-25-2022 , 11:36 AM
Walt was expected to act like a saint in a world that was continually unjust to him and who were doing wrong themselves. The middle class in the US is being destroyed. He fought back. He defended himself. You could even make a case that he did the world a favor by getting rid of a lot of violent thugs that were more criminal than he ever was or would be. Heisenberg forever.
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07-25-2022 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokerlogist
Walt was expected to act like a saint in a world that was continually unjust to him and who were doing wrong themselves. The middle class in the US is being destroyed. He fought back. He defended himself. You could even make a case that he did the world a favor by getting rid of a lot of violent thugs that were more criminal than he ever was or would be.
Are you talking about Michael Douglas in Falling Down?
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07-25-2022 , 07:40 PM
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Are you talking about Michael Douglas in Falling Down?
There is some overlap but, of course, Walter was much more cool-headed, methodical, and saw the big picture.

The new generation in the US and in the developed countries are not making families now, and their not taking low paying dead end jobs, and they jump from corporation to corporation before they can get dumped or abused for no good reason. They know that pursuing the middle class American dream (family and home and job security) can be a risky nightmare. There is no safety net.

Walter says he did it all his crimes for "himself" but maybe he was fooling himself there or the writers were trying to placate the audience. The show often portrayed him as forever bonded with his wife and children. If had been a lifelong single man would he ever had become Heisenberg? I don't think so.

Just another point of view.
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07-25-2022 , 07:59 PM
I feel like the Gray Matter episode specifically addresses this.
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07-26-2022 , 11:16 AM
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I feel like the Gray Matter episode specifically addresses this.
Exactly - he wasn't doing it for the family. He clearly believes having a family robbed him of his rightful place as a recognized super wealthy genius and resents them because he sacrificed his spot at Gray Matter to take care of them. It has nothing to do with society.
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07-26-2022 , 04:16 PM
come on, guys

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Pride (superbia), also known as hubris (from Ancient Greek ὕβρις) or futility. It is considered the original and worst of the seven deadly sins on almost every list, the most demonic.[40] It is also thought to be the source of the other capital sins. Pride is the opposite of humility.[41][42]

Pride is identified as dangerously corrupt selfishness, putting one's own desires, urges, wants, and whims before the welfare of others. Dante's definition of pride was "love of self perverted to hatred and contempt for one's neighbor".

In more pathological cases, it is an irrational belief that one is essentially better, superior, or more important than others, despising their merits, and excessively admiring oneself as godlike, refusing to acknowledge one's limits, faults, or wrongs.

Pride has been labeled the father of all sins and has been deemed the devil's most essential trait. C.S. Lewis writes in Mere Christianity that pride is the "anti-God" state, the position in which the ego and the self are directly opposed to God: "Unchastity, anger, greed, drunkenness and all that, are mere fleabites in comparison: it was through Pride that the devil became the devil: Pride leads to every other vice: it is the complete anti-God state of mind."[43] Pride is understood to sever the spirit from God, as well as His life-and-grace-giving Presence.[23]

In Ancient Athens, hubris was considered one of the greatest vices: an insolent contempt, a violent urge to aggrandize oneself by shaming others. This sense of hubris could also characterize rape.[46] Aristotle defined hubris as shaming a victim merely for the shamer's own gratification rather than any revenge or material interest.[47][48][49] The word's connotation changed somewhat over time, with some additional emphasis towards a gross overestimation of one's abilities.

According to the biblical book of Sirach, the heart of a proud man is "like a partridge in its cage acting as a decoy; like a spy he watches for your weaknesses. He changes good things into evil, he lays his traps. Just as a spark sets coals on fire, the wicked man prepares his snares in order to draw blood. Beware of the wicked man for he is planning evil. He might dishonor you forever."

he's also completely full of **** on the grey matter stuff, sorry if you missed that lmao
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07-29-2022 , 10:34 AM
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Made a deal with the girlfriend that I would marathon Stranger Things with her if she marathon’d this with me since she hadn’t seen this yet.

We’re in season 4 and obviously she loves it. But aside from the sympathy for Walt’s diagnosis, she’s was barely on his side from the beginning. And not at all mid-season 2.

Which made me think…. When was I off team Walt? I don’t think it was until the final season…. Even the end of season 4, I was still mostly rooting for him…

The final season should be fun to watch her watch lol She absolutely loves Jesse and as on edge as I was during the final 8, she’s gonna be destroyed….
Jesse is nothing if not for Walt. Walt running point guard, head coach, and almost everything else at that point for Team Walt. In fact Jesse is likely already dead if not for Walt going into that final season so whether or not you sympathize for Jesse or not and his situation Walt pretty much GTO'ed his situation for both him and Jesse and then some up to that point. Did he get greedy? yep. Jesse is still dead without him running coach and point guard so hopefully your girlfriend understands that everything Jesse has coming for him is his own dumb fault.
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07-29-2022 , 10:41 AM
walt ruined jesse's life
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07-29-2022 , 10:46 AM
People have choices and so did Jesse. wtf. Walt tried to protect him for the greater part of most of the show and even died because of him in the end.
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07-29-2022 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
walt ruined jesse's life
he did. but Jesse was well on his way to ruining his own life prior. and he was about to get killed by Emilio and Krazy8 anyway.

thats not to give Walt any credit. he was pos that manipulated Jesse into staying around and killed Jane.
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07-29-2022 , 11:07 AM
What happens to Jesse if not for Walt? He stays a low level cook/dealer. Probably caught by a jealous ex and/or arrested at some point. Maybe he lasts long enough for Gus and Gale to get up and running, then he's chased out of the territory or recruited.
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07-29-2022 , 12:37 PM
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What happens to Jesse if not for Walt? He stays a low level cook/dealer. Probably caught by a jealous ex and/or arrested at some point. Maybe he lasts long enough for Gus and Gale to get up and running, then he's chased out of the territory or recruited.
I'd take that option over what actually happened to him.

If I have to pick between a) being a low level dealer who alternates between chilling with friends and staying in jail or b) a guy who shoots somebody in the face, watches his GF and a little boy die and gets tortured by nazis, I don't think that's particularly close.
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07-29-2022 , 01:42 PM
thanks for reminding me that the premise of the show is so bogus
phd chemistry wiz teaching high school for no reason, supposedly making like $40k/year after ~20 years in? absolute nonsense

plus if he didn't do **** after he quit grey matter, that's 1000% on him
stop being a bitter bitch and blaming everyone else


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walt ruined jesse's life
he ruined the life of like everyone he came into contact with, and ended the life of dozens

did all yall actually watch the show? lol
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