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Old 12-04-2012, 10:10 PM   #1651
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Re: Boardwalk Empire: Season 3

if he gets shot anywhere but the brain I think he has enough control left to pull the trigger.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:15 PM   #1652
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They are in a war ,the general never takes the point in a situation like this .
They are in a house full of dead bodies, the is no point to be taken.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:24 PM   #1653
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Great final couple of episodes. Looking forward to seeing what happens in Chicago when Capone returns home, as well as if there will be a resurgence of any problems for Nucky in Philly as a result of likely having to run his liquor from western PA to AC through there.

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Also saying they are untrained goes against a lot of the scenes we have already seen.
Which ones?

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That's Robert "Bob" De Niro in the cult classic "Meet the Parents." He plays a former CIA agent. Telling you any more than that would spoil it for you; just rent it ASAP.

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Old 12-04-2012, 10:26 PM   #1654
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for those of you saying that the harrow scene was completely unrealistic, I suggest the following:

1. go to your local shooting range
2. take the safety course (if required, probably should have a buddy who's used to shooting if not)
3. rent a handgun
4. take some practice shots to get used to everything
5. set target at 10 yards
6. set loaded gun on table facing downrange
7. see how long it takes to pick the gun up, aim, and shoot
8. check target and realize that you almost certainly missed
9. realize that this is at close range with something unmoving and not shooting back at you. AND you're sober.

then, for fun, find a marine/special forces type person. Watch them empty a clip into an area the size of a quarter at 15 yards. In the time you could get ~4 shots off. 2 of which didn't even hit the target.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:30 PM   #1655
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Re: Boardwalk Empire: Season 3

Off the top of my head when gyp gets attacked everyone including gyp reacts in a much calmer manner and go after the attacker instead of running away.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:18 PM   #1656
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They are in a house full of dead bodies, the is no point to be taken.
The looks on Nucky and Eli s faces when viewing the carnage were of utter disbelief, there is no reason for the viewer to think that they had knowledge of an OOT SUPERFANBOY going postal and eliminating the threat.
Are you implying Nucky assumed Gyp's crew would magically be eliminated when he entered the enemy's stronghold with only his brother?
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:26 PM   #1657
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The camera pans over the bodies of the dead in the main room and there are voices of disbelief suggesting that a group went into the house together.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:16 AM   #1658
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Godamn. Not everything needs to tie together in a tight, neat, little package. Enjoy the amazing sets, actors, dialogue, interactions.

Who cares if every action by each character doesn't ultimately wind up being some part of some pivotal scene in a comprehensive plot?

I enjoy learning a little bit about each character. I enjoy the introspection and internal conflict that each character is challenged with. In a show that does nearly everything well, IDGAF if not every piece of awesomeness somehow fits perfectly in a grand scheme.
Grunching from before the season finale, but yes, this. ^^^

Not every scene in every episode has to be integral to the overall plot, nor do they all have to tie together. Some of it is just character development. I mean, sure, I love watching Richard go all LIAM NEESONS (nsfw) on everyone, but sometimes you just need to get into the characters a bit.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:38 AM   #1659
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Definitely agree that Harrow's spree is, if not entirely plausible, at least more so than some ITT are giving it credit for. I mean really,why is it so hard to believe that a hardened vet marksmen who basically lives for nothing but war at this point in his life (big picture) could get the drop on a few drunken thugs?

Sure, most people on the planet wouldn't stand a chance, just like most people would never have gotten off 3 rounds from the book depository building.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:49 AM   #1660
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fwiw, I never said it's unbelievable Harrow could get the drop on them. Rather, the way he goes about it--standing completely exposed and inviting people to take open shots at him from all positions--is not how this gunplay fish would go about it. I'd think taking cover would be pretty important.

Especially if I had one eye.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:50 AM   #1661
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Plausible or not, who cares? Just enjoy the show. We all wanted to see Richard rampage and he did. Standing ovation.
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:18 AM   #1662
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Sure. To me it stretched credulity past breaking point and so didn't get a standing ovation, but I'm not really fussed if others agree. It's the people who are adamant it was realistic who seem to be getting all flustered about it.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:07 AM   #1663
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Plausible or not, who cares? Just enjoy the show. We all wanted to see Richard rampage and he did. Standing ovation.
100% this.
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:32 AM   #1664
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hotdogfallacy you are the WOAT poster in this thread. I am not alone in thinking this.
FYP.

It's nothing personal, HDF, so don't attack me. Your posts are just so bad and you get upset when anyone(Nath) challenges your views with cogent, rational, well thought out responses. It's really quite ridiculous at this point.

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for those of you saying that the harrow scene was completely unrealistic, I suggest the following:

1. go to your local shooting range
2. take the safety course (if required, probably should have a buddy who's used to shooting if not)
3. rent a handgun
4. take some practice shots to get used to everything
5. set target at 10 yards
6. set loaded gun on table facing downrange
7. see how long it takes to pick the gun up, aim, and shoot
8. check target and realize that you almost certainly missed
9. realize that this is at close range with something unmoving and not shooting back at you. AND you're sober.

then, for fun, find a marine/special forces type person. Watch them empty a clip into an area the size of a quarter at 15 yards. In the time you could get ~4 shots off. 2 of which didn't even hit the target.
Winner.

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Old 12-05-2012, 07:59 AM   #1665
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hotdogfallacy you are becoming the WOAT poster in this thread. I can't be alone in thinking this.

Chalky knew Samuel was studying to become a doctor even when he was being hostile towards him. And even then I don't think it was Samuel personally, Chalky was having an awful day and was sippin that whiskey.
i mean i got a totally opposite interpretation of that scene. afair Chalky was badly disposed towards Sam, right until he realized that he could be useful. If I am wrong and this was not the writer's intentions, then they did a very poor job with that episode. i guess when i will rewatch this show 20 years from now, i might be proven wrong
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:18 AM   #1666
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i mean i got a totally opposite interpretation of that scene. afair Chalky was badly disposed towards Sam, right until he realized that he could be useful. If I am wrong and this was not the writer's intentions, then they did a very poor job with that episode. i guess when i will rewatch this show 20 years from now, i might be proven wrong
Rewatch the scene. I haven't seen it in months but I'm almost positive the fact he was studying to become a doctor did nothing to make Chalky treat him any better.
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:18 AM   #1667
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what episode was it
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:20 AM   #1668
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what episode was it
"What Does the Bee Do?"
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:10 AM   #1669
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Anyone think there may be a flashback next season showing Owens murder. Maybe Margaret gets vengeance.....
Im picturing Margaret sneaking up on Masseria in the Turkish bath, whispering "Owen Slater says hello" and then garroting him.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:39 AM   #1670
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Posting this here because it seems like the best active thread in which to post it.

Excerpt from Sepinwall's new book. Talks to David Chase about the Sopranos' ending and the missing Russian.

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/c...e_and_the.html

For the record, I loved the fact that the Russian never came back and never believed that Tony was killed in the finale.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:07 AM   #1671
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Posting this here because it seems like the best active thread in which to post it.

Excerpt from Sepinwall's new book. Talks to David Chase about the Sopranos' ending and the missing Russian.

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/c...e_and_the.html

For the record, I loved the fact that the Russian never came back and never believed that Tony was killed in the finale.
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They finally hit on an idea everyone would be happy with: Tony and Christopher pay a visit to the local Russian mob boss, where they find Valery sweeping the floor, not recognizing Christopher thanks to a traumatic brain injury suffered when Chris and Paulie were shooting at him. (It would be explained that a local Boy Scout troop found him with part of his skull missing, and saved his life.)
i agree with chase , this would have been awful ..
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Old 12-05-2012, 05:39 PM   #1672
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Cool article. You should post it here
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:24 PM   #1673
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Wow that idea is ****ing terrible. The Russian was so badass, don't unbadass him just to resolve a plotline that works better not being resolved.
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:23 PM   #1674
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The last thing Chase would have cared about is keeping him badass. That's an idea completely antithetical to The Sopranos, and it makes sense that the one scenario they toyed with actually distanced the show from the spectre of the mythical bulletproof Russian.

There's no Omar Little or Richard Harrow in The Sopranos.
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:34 PM   #1675
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i mean i got a totally opposite interpretation of that scene. afair Chalky was badly disposed towards Sam, right until he realized that he could be useful. If I am wrong and this was not the writer's intentions, then they did a very poor job with that episode. i guess when i will rewatch this show 20 years from now, i might be proven wrong
De-lurking just to say, I don't understand how you could possibly have watched the same show as the rest of us, and come to that conclusion. If you're the only one who interpreted it that way, it doesn't mean the writing was poor.
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