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Originally Posted by StimAbuser
Lot's of people unfamiliar with combat underestimating how possible Ricahrds scene was ITT.
Gyps guys were all likely drunk and confused and disorganized and unready. With the confusion of Masseria's people leaving, they probably thought it was Nuckys full force coming through the door. So when Richard bursts threw the door and starts capping fools in the head, most people are going to run. They aren't trained soliders, they're gangsters. You can see most people flee like chickens with their heads cut off. Once people start retreating it causes mass panic and most people are easy pickings.
Not even that far fetched, you guys are just huge whales in these matters imo. There are countless examples of few taking out many in combat because the element of surprise and unorganized people fleeing and panicking. Even examples of single soldiers taking out 40+ people in the field all at once.
This poster is reasonable.
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Originally Posted by Michaelson
Perfectly happy to believe I'm a whale, or even just a fish, in these matters. I've never held a gun that wasn't an antique.
I doubt many soldiers who have taken out 40+ people in the field have done so from such an exposed position though. I don't mind that he took a bunch of guys out early, but that he strolled through the joint in such a cavalier manner, while no one took a shot at him until they were in his line of fire first, looked completely absurd to me.
Not really trying to nit, I like the idea of the scene and I was tense throughout, but it took me way out of it while watching.
This is an example of quite a few posters who aren't thinking things through with an open mind, and who are too dismissive. I'm not saying that everything would have happened in real life exactly as it did in the show - that would of course be unreasonable, because this is a television show. But the plotting and course of action portrayed is far more realistic than posters such as this guy have been claiming.
Let's think things through here and pretend we're outside the mansion with Harrow right before the attack.
If Harrow had been watching the mansion before attacking it, which he certainly did, then he just saw dozens of Masseria's men leaving. And he certainly picked up on the confusion. He likely saw that the front door, which had previously been guarded by Masseria's men, was now left unguarded. Gyp's men clearly had no idea what had just happened (in other words they were all confused as to why Masseria's men were bailing), so it makes sense that none of Gyp's men would be guarding the door
if a group of Masseria's men had been previously stationed at the door. That's simple "If A, then B" logic, and it's not a stretch whatsoever. So with dozens of Masseria's men loading up into their cars, Harrow sees an opening. Hey, great chance to walk straight in! But apparently that kind of simple scenario is lost on the nit posters in this thread who don't understand how Harrow could just "waltz in" / "stroll in" because they need to have it shown to them with 15 minutes of exposition, an instruction manual, and army-approved battle tactics.
So not only was the sudden departure of Masseria's men great opportunity for Harrow to enter, but Harrow now can easily see that the number of men left in the mansion is going to be a much smaller group that he can ambush and punish. After all, Harrow was living in the house as of just a couple of days prior and knew exactly how many men were stationed there.
That Harrow domination/killing rampage scene overall really wasn't that unrealistic. Sure, maybe some of the guys coming down the stairs would have been able to see Harrow and get a better shot at him, and I'm sure there were some trivial details anyone could find fault with, but the posters claiming that Harrow's sudden entrance and subsequent ambush were unrealistic are way off.
Last edited by MDPokerAA; 12-04-2012 at 05:07 AM.