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01-15-2018 , 05:22 AM
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No, the political message that the more privileged people are always evil towards the less.
As shown with examples above, this is certainly not the case across all seasons and episodes. As mentioned there are lots of examples of people of all types being dicks to people of all types. Playtest probably the ultimate example of a foreign company and man and black woman torturing and killing an innocent white guy to make video games.

Again, was this present in season 4 in a vacuum? I'm not sure. To some extent it was in episodes 1 and 6, episodes 5 and 4 it certainly wasn't, and I feel like episodes 2 & 3 you are really stretching things to try to make a point when the evidence simply doesn't back it up. In your defence here, Brooker has actually stated that Crocodile was originally supposed to have had a male lead, race I'm unsure on. If it had been a white guy then it would be 3/6 and closer to a pattern. I'm very glad that they switched it though, as I feel like it would have reduced the comedy and that was really all that episode had going for it.

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You have to be seriously evil to drive drunk, kill a child, and dump them in a river to avoid consequences. Granted I suppose the guy at the end who perpetually electrocutes the prisoner is worse, but I could make arguments against everyone else I can recall.
Come on........







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Guy who accidentally hit and runs someone, then regrets it and seeks to make it better, is not even in the top 30 worst characters in BM.
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01-15-2018 , 08:50 AM
I, personally, think television needs more white, straight men. Preferably named Kevin
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01-15-2018 , 01:25 PM
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I am aware of this. Although a lot of the examples could possibly be blamed on casting, it definitely does appear that he's grown to be slightly less concerned about good pure story telling and slightly more concerned about pushing the LA.
It's just hilarious how you're letting this alt-right bull**** ruin even non-political science fiction for you. That can't be a healthy way to go through life, because buddy, it's gonna get a lot worse for you and it will never ever get better.

You appear to be mad that they cast a white male teen to be the boyfriend of a white female teen character! If the coke dealer had been black you would've been mad at the relationship being interracial. If the daughter had been a lesbian you would've been mad at LGBT getting inserted. And if the boyfriend had just been a nice boy with no sex drive or side gig the plot of the episode doesn't happen!

There really isn't a lot of literal white supremacist propaganda made for wide release, my dude, and that seems to be the only thing that will make you happy. You're gonna just have to get over it.
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01-15-2018 , 01:48 PM
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There really isn't a lot of literal white supremacist propaganda made for wide release, my dude, and that seems to be the only thing that will make you happy. You're gonna just have to get over it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_S..._Union_Address
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01-16-2018 , 03:58 PM
Getting back on track... I currently have 5 full rankings accumulated. Some pretty clear patterns for most episodes, with one in particular bucking the trend. Would love a few more.

If you want yours in please pm a full listing of 19 to me or post it itt.
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01-16-2018 , 04:44 PM
Callister
15 million merits
entire history
san junipero
white christmas
brb
hang the dj
playtest
national anthem
black museum
men against fire
hated in the nation
crocodile
metalhead
nosedive
shut up and dance
white bear
waldo moment
arkangel
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01-16-2018 , 05:05 PM
Mine:

Entire History of You
Hang the DJ
White Christmas
USS Callister
White Bear
National Anthem
15 Million Merits
Black Museum
Men Against Fire
San Junipero
Playtest
Shut Up and Dance
Nosedive
Be Right Back
Metalhead
Hated in the Nation
Arkangel
Crocodile
Waldo Moment
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01-16-2018 , 05:09 PM
white christmas
hated in the nation
white bear
arkangel
hang the dj
black museum
shut up and dance
entire history
15 million merits
Callister
brb
nosedive
playtest
men against fire
crocodile
san junipero
waldo moment
national anthem
metalhead
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01-16-2018 , 05:11 PM
Arkangel about Entire History is odd.
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01-16-2018 , 05:52 PM
I never knew so many people had White Christmas at the top. Thought I was unusual, although I think White Bear is slightly higher for me.

Not sure if I will do a full ranking, sounds like effort required to do so.
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01-16-2018 , 06:44 PM
I'd be interested if people rewatched all the episodes in random order again what the ranking would be. Better yet, get some friends who never watched it to marathon a few episodes and report back their ranking!

San Junipero was the bee's knees by everyone at the time because it was admittedly great but everyone gushed about it even to non-black mirror friends. Now it seems to have regressed significantly.
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01-16-2018 , 07:11 PM
If it's regressed in popularity, I don't know why. I still think it's pretty easily the best episode of the show; fwiw I say this as someone who started watching the show two years before it was even on Netflix.
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01-16-2018 , 08:16 PM
Entire History of You
Be Right Back
White Christmas
National Anthem
Hang the DJ
San Junipero(I only watched s3 last month to prepare for S4, so maybe high expectations ruined this for me)
Black Museum
Hated in the Nation
USS Callister
Playtest
Shut up and Dance
15 Million Merits
Crocodile
White Bear
Metalhead
Men Against Fire
Waldo Moment
Arkangel
Nosedive
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01-16-2018 , 09:45 PM
San Junipero
USS Callister
Hang the DJ
Be Right Back
White Bear
White Christmas
The National Anthem
15 Million Merits
Playtest
Shut Up and Dance
Entire History of You
Nosedive
Black Museum
Arkangel
Crocodile
Men Against Fire
Metalhead
The Waldo Moment
Hated in the Nation
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01-16-2018 , 10:08 PM
Updating these now, getting to a really solid number in which I can actually do a fun reveal and some stats (basic, like how many first places and spread etc) too.
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01-16-2018 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK
Arkangel about Entire History is odd.
Haha to be honest in most of these there is at least one thing where I think "No you can't possibly think that!!"
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01-16-2018 , 10:22 PM
Entire History of You
Hated in the Nation
San Junipero
Be Right Back
USS Callister
The National Anthem
Shut Up and Dance
Hang the DJ
15 Million Merits
White Christmas
Playtest
Crocodile
Nosedive
Black Museum
White Bear
Men Against Fire
Metalhead
Arkangel
The Waldo Moment
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01-16-2018 , 10:23 PM
I can’t remember three or four of the nineteen, so I’m going to pass on ranking all of them. But San Junipero, White Christmas and History of You are my top three. I did not like Callister or Waldo, which at probably my bottom two.
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01-16-2018 , 11:15 PM
Go re-watch Howard! Gotta be in it to win it!
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01-16-2018 , 11:18 PM
Post a deadline and I'll likely submit something.
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01-17-2018 , 12:03 AM
Alright well we are getting close enough to an amount where a reveal is already gonna be good, so I'll give it til the end of the weekend then reveal some time next week. Entries open by pm or posting itt until I start the reveal.
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01-17-2018 , 02:25 AM
ok ready to join the tally

White Christmas
San Junipero
Hated in the Nation
Entire History of You
USS Callister
Hang the DJ
Be Right Back
Fifteen Million Merits
Black Museum
Nosedive
Shut Up and Dance
Arkangel
White Bear
Crocodile
Playtest
Metalhead
The National Anthem
Man Against Fire
The Waldo Moment
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01-17-2018 , 05:19 PM
San Junipero
White Christmas
The Entire History of You
Shut Up and Dance
Hated in the Nation
White Bear
USS Callister
Black Museum
The National Anthem
Hang the DJ
Playtest
Crocodile
Nosedive
Men Against Fire
Metalhead
Fifteen Million Merits
Be Right Back
The Waldo Moment
Arkangel
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01-17-2018 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK
Arkangel about Entire History is odd.
I believe if EHOY actually existed, no one would ever show other people their memories as regularly happens in this ep, or alternatively would only show a highly favorable selection (like how people make their lives look better than they actually are via social media). Alternatively, they would never engage in affairs as his wife does knowing that there'd be a record of it.

Arkangel seemed more realistic to me in terms of parents maintaining the control and abusing it.
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01-17-2018 , 06:39 PM
I don't find it odd at all (relatively speaking) as there are reasons to love both episodes. I actually feel like Arkangel would poll much higher if this forum had a higher ratio of females and in particular mothers.
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