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05-02-2017 , 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
Rod,




I believe the extra he piled on was the remainder of the trust fund. Last we saw that had lost most of its value, and perhaps all of it soon with the company potentially headed to bankruptcy.
Yes this. The trust fund is probably empty in cash (after the seccond buy), but they should have close to 1M shares (300K + 700K?) at like $3.5 closing price so still have over $3M in stock.

When/if it gets known that it was pure sabotage the stock will probably rebound.
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05-02-2017 , 04:28 AM
What I dont get is why Wendy would be prosecuted aswell. She used her own money (or maybe it was the money she has tied up in Axe capitals fund?) and just shorted the stock through Axe firm right?

There is no proof (what we know of) that she had any information at all about the sabotage. Just that she "knows" that when Axe take a big short like this he usually knows something that other people do not know. And it will look bad aswell.
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05-02-2017 , 04:38 AM
it will look incredibly bad cause she probably never done a big trade before and suddenly jumps and make the greatest short of all time, its just to big of a coincidence for any goveror´s missus, and the prosecutor would probably go after her hard.

its the saving grace.
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05-02-2017 , 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokerisfunny
What I dont get is why Wendy would be prosecuted aswell. She used her own money (or maybe it was the money she has tied up in Axe capitals fund?) and just shorted the stock through Axe firm right?

There is no proof (what we know of) that she had any information at all about the sabotage. Just that she "knows" that when Axe take a big short like this he usually knows something that other people do not know. And it will look bad aswell.
Axe sabotaged the product, had his company short the stock, Mafee then told Wendy about the impending tumble, which she took advantage of. Could be considered insider trading as she had knowledge that the stock was about to tank before the general public did.
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05-02-2017 , 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Rod Handler
Axe sabotaged the product, had his company short the stock, Mafee then told Wendy about the impending tumble, which she took advantage of. Could be considered insider trading as she had knowledge that the stock was about to tank before the general public did.
But Mafee didnt necessarily know about the sabotage right (most probably not), just that when Axe is confident he is usually right. Nothing insider about that, as long as Mafee didnt KNOW about the sabotage or that "something" would happen or?

But I agree it would at the very least look extremely bad for Wendy taking a big short just before the news hit.
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05-02-2017 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by TouchOfEVil
it will look incredibly bad cause she probably never done a big trade before and suddenly jumps and make the greatest short of all time, its just to big of a coincidence for any goveror´s missus, and the prosecutor would probably go after her hard.

its the saving grace.
Totally agree. Whether its legal or not, to the public she would be considered to be a beneficiary of a criminal conspiracy and thus her husband benefits as well.

I'm thinking in the end Axe gets off, Chuck has to quietly back away from Governor race and his father takes the fall.
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05-02-2017 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokerisfunny
But Mafee didnt necessarily know about the sabotage right (most probably not), just that when Axe is confident he is usually right. Nothing insider about that, as long as Mafee didnt KNOW about the sabotage or that "something" would happen or?

But I agree it would at the very least look extremely bad for Wendy taking a big short just before the news hit.
I think you're seeing it too much from the viewers perspective.

Axe criminally sabotages a company for the purposes of stock manipulation and Wendy, who works at Axe Capital, happens to make a massive random short (which presumably she has never done before) on the stock at the same time. The company busts and Wendy makes millions.

I guess you could argue that it's circumstantial, but any reasonable court/jury would throw the book at her.
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05-03-2017 , 09:28 PM
I thought it was the worst episode of the series . It just seemed really lazy with all the 2 weeks ago, 6 days ago stuff. The work release guy is a terrible actor, cringeworthy.
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05-04-2017 , 01:32 AM
I'm definitely #TeamChuck but they've got to eventually find a new paradigm here.

The whole concept of the series is pretty absurd. U.S. attorney will stop at nothing to bring down specific billionaire who happens to employ his wife as an integral part of the business. You've got visions of the White House someday and you just can't find a different ox to gore?

This time Axe should be dead to rights but there's probably going to be some loophole so they can start off on each other fresh for the 10th time next season.

Would've been happy with an uneasy detente and we follow both in their subsequent pursuits but the only way this is palatable now is with Axe in the clink and Chuck making moves.

There's way too much evidence to ignore and maybe Wendy gets caught in the crosshairs, maybe not but come on .
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05-04-2017 , 06:18 AM
The show (and last episode especially) is entertaining, and pretty well made for what it is, but it's not the kind of show where you want to think about the plot too hard.
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05-04-2017 , 07:05 AM
I've given the show plenty of rope with regards to suspension of disbelief. Too much.

But this seems like the point of no return. It's Paul ****ing Giamatti who agreed to act in a series, do we have to turn the thing into an embarrassing joke for him? It's Showtime so unfortunately I think I know the answer to that question, but.

Just move the plot in a reasonable direction and let the show be what it is without running in the same stupid circle for 5 seasons.
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05-04-2017 , 10:58 AM
Are we assuming that ICEJ doesn't bounce back on news that it was a setup (I understand it won't be immediate), thus eventually replenishing the trust fund?
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05-05-2017 , 09:45 AM
Anyone else anti Rhodes family? Besides Wendy love her. But I was happy see chuck n his dad fall, good twist tho!


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05-08-2017 , 08:09 AM
2018 seems like a long way away
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05-08-2017 , 01:55 PM
Season 2 started weak but ended strong, can't wait for season 3!!!

If i didn't read that they're already writing season 3 i wouldn't thought this was the end, kind of had that feal that the show had ended, glad to know there will be atleast 1 more season.

p.s Was i the only one who had misconstrued the meeting with Axe & Wendy, felt like they were having an affair & at that location is when he told her he wanted it to end, am i the only one who got that or am i far off?
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05-08-2017 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
Season 2 started weak but ended strong, can't wait for season 3!!!

If i didn't read that they're already writing season 3 i wouldn't thought this was the end, kind of had that feal that the show had ended, glad to know there will be atleast 1 more season.

p.s Was i the only one who had misconstrued the meeting with Axe & Wendy, felt like they were having an affair & at that location is when he told her he wanted it to end, am i the only one who got that or am i far off?
You're the only one.
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05-08-2017 , 10:54 PM
I am confused with how Chuck is going to keep his dad's investment in the juice company a secret. I know he thinks he has the gov geek's promise to seal it , but how does he control team Axe from leaking this ? How is Wendy's monster short play not going to hinder his image / political career ?
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05-09-2017 , 01:14 AM
This show is OK but Taylor sucks she's way too on the nose.
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05-09-2017 , 03:12 AM
Mr,

That part made no sense at all.
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05-10-2017 , 07:05 PM
One of the best episodes (finale) of the series by far.
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05-11-2017 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Rod Handler
Staggering that Sepinwall isn't watching this, arguably the best show on TV at the moment.
This show is just so much fun.

Sepinwall watches so many crappy shows, but neither this or Peaky Blinders.
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05-11-2017 , 11:28 PM
2 Questions

What was significance of guy who Axe paid off mortgage having his man flake and deciding to drink it himself? Just a direct link to Axe like he warned him about?

Why was Axe so pissed that Wendy was allowed to go in on the short?
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05-12-2017 , 08:51 AM
Pretty sure he was pissed because she knew something was up and she could have possibly told her husband about it.
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05-12-2017 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlieDontSurf
2 Questions

What was significance of guy who Axe paid off mortgage having his man flake and deciding to drink it himself? Just a direct link to Axe like he warned him about?

Why was Axe so pissed that Wendy was allowed to go in on the short?
1. Yes.

2. Because Wendy making money helps Chuck.
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05-12-2017 , 09:20 PM
Axe was also very concerned about the appearance (to investigators, to the media, etc) that there was a wall/boundary between him and Wendy. Consider the S1 incident where Chuck was able to access Wendy's notes - Axe wanted it to appear that he doesn't have that trusting of a relationship with Wendy. Wendy's short position doesn't help with such appearances.
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