Kyle did excellent work last week.
Turner getting in an alliance with Terrance is great for his equity. Alyssa also in a great spot

If Brochella won HOH, Terrence was chucking Kyle directly under the bus though, right?

Yeah. Kyle was already toast within the Leftovers. I think he made lemonade with this group.

So let me get this straight? Turner targets the leftovers minus Monte and Kyle. Michael wins veto taking off Britt to only 1 leftover he can still take out that's against him in Taylor. But oh wait! Michael and Britt tell Turner(for game strategy to make Turner target Kyle as if he doesn't maybe people will think Turner thinks like Kyle???) that Kyle was worried about a cookout scenario being possible that they should at least be aware it could be happening. Turner now succumbs to this house pressure to target literally his closest alliance member in the house in Kyle???? This is an insane move by Turner. Turner has been my favorite player up until this happened. Now he lost me. Still sorta rooting for him but this is a huge mistake and has lowered his stock in winning drastically making this move and he deserves what will come. Which will be him in the lowest ring of the leftovers and could be targeted at anytime. Where if he puts up Monte against Taylor letting Monte know i'm only putting you up to guarantee Taylor gets evicted. As Turner would have deciding vote in tie. Monte would understand especially after Turner does in fact evict Taylor. Then Turner has Monte, Terrence, Kyle, Allyssa vs Michael and Britt. Instead he has nobody that has his back now. Bad move and only doing this to succumb to pier and social pressures.

Btw, i don't see any racism in Kyle stating that a cookout scenario was possible. As since Day and Bay saying they would never target or vote out a black person. To the cookout resonating with the black community as a great thing. Taylor and others even said the cookout is why she signed up to play Big Brother. How does that make him racist? He's not saying he doesn't like black people. He's just saying possible alliances that could form. Just like players past worrying about all women alliances or all men alliances. I apologize if i'm being insensitive or ignorant in my thinking.

My bad. Wouldn't be a tie anyway as has Terrence, Kyle, Allyssa to vote out Taylor. Where only Michael and Britt would vote out Monte.

Was dumb to not nominate Michael and Brittany together. Also dumb to be overly attached to Monte. Getting rid of Michael or Monte increases everyone's equity.

Yeah Michael woulda been better vs Britt. I think his thinking was rather not give Michael the comp beast a better shot at playing for veto. But if he on the block you get at least one of them to go. Well still could have had one of them to go had he not put Kyle up.

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Yeah I don't see anything racist about what he said, but it's just one of those things where if you even obliquely suggest that maybe we should get the white folks to vote together, it's like touching the third rail--you can't even hint at it. On a game show where it's just a group of isolated people, it shouldn't technically speaking mirror society where the cookout is "punching up" and a white alliance is "punching down", but that's the way it's perceived and I get it.

Sucks that Michael kept that in his back pocket and then dropped it now, I mean it's good gameplay but it sucks. And I'm saying this as someone who likes Michael and thinks Kyle is kind of a douche.

After winning the veto is a really interesting time to pull out this stop.

If Im Turner, I just say thank you and try to get to the end with Kyle.

Is it good game play? I think it was inevitable people were going to start targeting Michael (I mean, they already had), but I'm not sure he didn't speed things along this week. His actions this week removed the "showmance" threat which might have been targeted ahead of him. Prevented the possibility of Turner replacing Brittany with Monte who is probably the biggest threat to Michael's game. Provided motive and opportunity for some players within the house to band more solidly together in a way that does not benefit him...not that such a thing would ever happen or that we should mention it if it did. Now that Kyle's gone, Michael is the new bad guy. There was already incentive for people to target him based on him being a competition threat and a social threat. Now there are murmurings of him trading on racial issues like a scumbag would. Voting scumbags out is every Big Brother player's moral responsibility so this turn in his narrative is not likely to work in his favor.

Yeah looking back on how it played out last night, I think it's almost a wash, they were targeting Michael anyway for being strong, and now just have a different reason to go after him. I don't think Monte going up would have changed things much, as his vote now isn't available, and they probably vote Taylor out instead. The only thing that's really different now is that the Afterparty thing has probably fizzled and now there's gonna be a full realignment. One interesting dynamic is whether Taylor stays loyal to Michael/Brittany for being pretty damn good to her over the past several weeks, or whether she's with Monte as to the importance of backdooring Michael ASAP.

I also think we're drawing live to Michael literally running the table with HOH/Veto wins from here on out which would make it a moot point (maybe with Brittany being able to eke out one random win somewhere along the line to help out, she's the only one guaranteed to protect him until F3, and maybe even at F3 if the other remaining player is also one she's guaranteed to lose a jury vote to).

Congrats to the all-time competition king.

Queer kids really can do anything. As long as youre conventionally athletic and one of the smartest people around

Look, I know Kyle was an idiot. Even if there was a black alliance happening, he's not allowed to mention it or counter it. He just has to let it happen. But, it makes no actual sense that pointing out the possibility of a black alliance is evil. The Cook Out just happened. And the general consensus seemed to be it was a triumph for the black community. Inspirational. So how is pointing out the possibility of it happening again 'succumbing to ugly thoughts'? Was the Cook Out's win not a beautiful thing? A group of people came together and worked through personal differences to achieve a common goal and everybody thought it was fing awesome. Yet mentioning the possibility it could happen again is the lowest of the low. Does that jibe?

Taylor straight up said she wouldn't nominate Jasmine because she's a black woman, yet Kyle deserves to be made to feel like a worm for suggesting she might take a course of action in the game based on race. (Which would be perfectly laudable if she did...obviously.)

Brittany is trying to sell to Taylor the idea of getting to the final three, THEN taking out Michael. Like that's likely. Come on.

How does Brittany not incept Alyssa into voting for her to win while she's fixing her back? Missed opportunity.

It makes "no actual sense" as you say, but it's just sort of the byproduct of living in a racially charged society or whatever you'd call it, you just have to tread super lightly. My guess is it would have been fine to mention that maybe there's a Cookout situation going on without proceeding to add the suggestion "maybe we should get together[list of all white people in the house] to counter it" or whatever.

I wonder how much the events of last week prevented Michael from taking out Monte.

He probably will regret letting him survive a third HoH

Yeah, shame for Michael he had that crisis of conscience when he did. Failed to fully appreciate the ramifications of what he was about to do. Now he can't target Monte and has imposed on himself he can't target Turner. We'll see if that sticks.

The list of people who want Michael out is 'everyone not Michael and Brittany' Which was going to happen anyway, but now it's going to happen with the backstory that Michael drags out racially charged information with timing that suits Michael.

Poor Michael. I wish we could've gotten a pulse check on every contestant during the double eviction. I'm guessing DE day is not for the faint hearted. Is Brittany going to be miserable for the rest of the show, thinking Michael hates her?

Julie: What did you want to say?

Michael: Nothing, I just wanted to leave.

Michael's exit was great. I honestly think he might be the type that has zero need to keep in touch with anybody outside the house after this anyway, although if he stayed friends with anyone it probably would be Brittany, they seem to be the same brand of nerd (not saying that in a derogatory way, I'm cut from that same cloth lol).

It's interesting that Turner at least appeared to be surprised by Monte taking the shot, and might have been earnestly into the idea of actually sticking with the all-guys final 3 deal. Based on Michael's exit interview he obviously wasn't into that deal any more than Monte was, if he wins the veto I would assume he takes Brittany off and asks Turner to put Monte up.

I don't have a huge rooting interest in anybody that's left so I'm torn as to whether I would rather see somebody deserving win (Turner/Monte), or watch the world burn if the girls somehow string together a few wins and knock them off. A Brittany/Alyssa F2 would make people's heads explode, even moreso if there's lasting bitterness towards Brittany about the whole strategic drop of the Kyle situation, and Alyssa wins the whole thing.

Even though she’s chubby, I think I’d throw a hump in Brittany. Why not?

I thought Michael was playing really well (except TOO well), but Turner and Monte have been my favorites for a while. Turner because I find him funny and he's been playing well. And Monte has been playing well and I find him really attractive. The girls have some positive points, but also annoy me on some level. Brittany was in the mix all season, but playing her game to help Michael win was off putting as well as the crazy eyes. Taylor has been pseudo competitive in comps and was able to overcome a lot of early game adversity, but her strategy and social game was really questionable. Alyssa has been in the house, but has been responsible for nothing...points because people seem to like her.

When these games are played correctly, the people you might want to root for should be voted out before the finals. They should be picking from...well, the leftovers.

her butt hasnt quit once in 60 days

Someone should edit the Michael leaving clip where he says “i have one thing to say” and then a fart noise and he walks out.

Surprised Julie didnt ask him about racism gate? Maybe in the extended interview?

I’m glad his time on the show didnt end on that sour note.

Well, they would have just shared a somber face about what a scumbag Kyle is, and then Julie could have congratulated him about what a triumph for humanity it was that he stepped forward and made sure such a slimy hater was removed from the game.

On a more genuine note, YAY, Monte! If Turner wins veto, things are shaping up quite nicely.

Only watched half the season premiere so I don't know any of the players from this season but Bovada has betting odds on the winner.

Monte +115
Matthew +145
Taylor +400
Alyssa +2500
Brittany +2500

Oh and Taylor is a big favorite to be America's Favorite Houseguest.

Any of you who have watched the whole season do any of the girls have a shot?

I stopped watching about 4 weeks into last season and haven't watched basically any of this one. This is after watching every Big Brother season since the beginning. Was this season any good or did it suck compared to old seasons?