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06-27-2019 , 07:07 PM
I'll probably watch the episodes after this season of BB ends.

The veto comp has been going on for a very long time. I think that's usually the case for the first one but it's funny because pretty much everyone is going to use the veto so it doesn't matter who wins. Nicole is the only one who might not but she already promised Cliff she'd use it on him. The best case scenario is somehow she wins and doesn't use it but that's the least likely outcome. That would cause Jack vs Jackson showdown week 1 with the 8 splitting and trying to rally everyone else.
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06-27-2019 , 08:11 PM
Kathryn looks like Janelle
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06-27-2019 , 08:26 PM
Watched for 30 seconds before deducing kathryn/michie conversations are unwatchable
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06-27-2019 , 08:37 PM
I watched them yesterday for about the same amount of time and I now go to the other feed at all times.

I like Jack's side much better. I like him Christie Tommy Analyse Nick and Sam the best right now. Both game wise and feeds wise. Jack is probably the worst of the bunch at the game but he's trying hard. Analyse is in a good spot but she is so young and trusts the last thing someone tells her. I also like Cliff and I think he'd side with them if he had to make a choice but it might come down to who has power at the right time.

Kathryn might be the least intelligent person to ever enter the house. I knew this in interviews when she told Jeff she just bought a TV a month ago so she's never watched BB and told Ika she's been watching Big Brother since like season 1. Every one of her answers was Tyler or Janelle. I'm sure she was told a bunch of times she looks like Janelle but has no clue who she is.

Kathryn just told Holly how smart of a game move she made by telling the other girls Jackson trusts her to get them to trust him. She thinks that was some groundbreaking move.
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06-27-2019 , 08:42 PM
109 minutes into feeds, Nick says “the catholic church is a joke”
Strongggg
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06-27-2019 , 08:44 PM
Who is on Jack’s side?
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06-27-2019 , 09:04 PM
Christie for sure. Everyone thinks Jack is in love with her. Tommy but only because of Christie. Nick and Sam- he's always with them but I've never heard them 2 talk about where they really stand. Apparently Ovi loves Jack. Jack isn't smart enough at this point to put his personal differences aside to work with him though. And apparently Nicole also loves him.

Jack and Sam were talking about their 8 person alliance which is them 2 Nick Christie Isabella Holly Jackson and Analyse. Possibly Tommy instead of Isabella but I'm unsure because a bunch of people think they are in a big alliance with either 4 or 5 of the original 6 person alliance. They want to make a 5 person side alliance to get majority with them 2 Nick Christie and Analyse. Sam said Isabella instead of Analyse and then Jack said well let's wait till we see who wins HOH. I'm unsure where Analyse would go if there's a power shift because she was all about Jack until Holly told her she had an ex that was just like Jack and he was a liar and manipulator so Analyse got caught up in the Jack hate.

Jackson's side is more clear with Holly and Kat for sure and probably Isabella.

Sam and Nick have a final 3 with Tommy that no one knows about so it's possible if there's a power struggle between Jack and Jackson that those 3 are the swing votes one way or the other.

All of the girls in the alliance (haven't seen Isabella so not sure about her) seem to get along really well and want to take out all the guys eventually.

Of course this is all week 1 and we missed the 1st 7 or so days so so we don't know who's lying to who yet. Take all of this info with a grain of salt. I heard all of these things and everything I wrote I believe to be true at this time based on my read and who was talking to who at the time they said it.

When I said Christie for sure I meant if it's a Jack vs Jackson situation. Christie could align with the women/Tommy to take out Jack or Jackson if the alliance cracks in a different way.
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06-27-2019 , 09:13 PM
A few things to add. Isabella is playing a great game as well. I didn't mention her because I haven't watched her on feeds yet but everyone loves her and includes her in everything even when she's not there.

I also forgot that last night Analyse and Holly slept in the HOH room and told Christie they think Jack is in love with her. Christie brushed it off and said she's not going to get feelings and would cut him if she had to. She didn't tell them she's a lesbian which is weird because we know she told Nicole and Nicole isn't in any alliances with her. Today Jack and Christie haven't been together in the hour or so we've seen but they were tied at the hip all night last night.
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06-27-2019 , 10:17 PM
Isabella seems to be best integrated socially. No idea how much game sense she has but she’s in it for the long haul.

I can say confidently that Ovi, Kemi, Analyse wont win the game.
Id say jackson but not 0.0%.
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06-27-2019 , 10:25 PM
I agree with everything you said except Analyse. She's in the majority alliance and both side alliances within the big alliance trust her and think she's on their side. Even if the alliance cracks into guys vs girls, both the guys and the girls sides would think she's with them. I can see her play the middle if the big alliance makes it to final 7-9 together. She also has watched more big brother than anyone in the house besides possibly Cliff or Tommy. I don't think she has a great chance but I wouldn't consider her drawing dead either. The only person who knows who is aligned with who and who's targeting who within the big alliance is Analyse. Her age and fickleness are working against her though.
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06-27-2019 , 10:43 PM
Jack just told Tommy he's sitting as a floater outside of the 8 so Tommy knows about all the alliances. Tommy says his ideal 5 is them 2 Christie Holly and Analyse. Neither of them know Holly hates Jack but Christie knows.
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06-27-2019 , 10:50 PM
Jack has made about 5 alliances of 5 within the big alliance today. I think every one included Christie and maybe Analyse. He could go downhill very quickly or be on the block with Christie in the upcoming weeks.
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06-27-2019 , 10:52 PM
I can just tell if Analyse gets to the end, theyll say she road coattails or floater.

Good post though i have barelyyyy watched her. Just first impression is that she’s way too meek.
I didnt pick up on her fandom when i read her bio but maybe i just forgot. I didnt watch preseason stuff.
Now im rooting for her

But perceptions change for sure. And she is certainly well liked and in a great position

Ovi is just so outside of the group. I was watching the first night. Theyve been there for so long and people are still learning things about his back story. It’s clear he hasnt had enough meaningful conversations
He seems like a tool but he’s a kid. (This is also getting weird to watch as a 29 year old im now older than so many of them)

Last edited by King~of~Diamonds; 06-27-2019 at 11:00 PM.
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06-27-2019 , 10:55 PM
Yeah I think her age plays into that so I don't necessarily disagree. I just think a lot of these juries have been voting for who they like more so I don't count anyone out. She could always be the swing in pivotal votes or make a big move or 2 who knows.
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06-27-2019 , 11:21 PM
They want to target Jess next and Ovi week 3. Apparently the way the Whacktivities work is in groups. The week 3 group is 3 members of the big alliance and Jess so if Jess is out one of them has to win it.

Ovi/Cliff have a chance to survive for a decent amount of time if the big alliance fractures in the next few weeks.

I didn't realize Analyse and Holly are so close but apparently they are.
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06-27-2019 , 11:35 PM
Holly is good at forming bonds
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06-27-2019 , 11:43 PM
At least Ovi Jess and Nicole are talking game together and kinda understand their positions.
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06-27-2019 , 11:53 PM
And Jack just made another 5 person alliance with Nick and Sam and 2 others to be named later. He's literally making multiple final 5s with the same people in them. This one only has 3 people at the moment.
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06-28-2019 , 01:38 AM
Kat who was nominated and knows the plan and who has watched every season of big brother has been freaking out that she might be getting backdoored this week.
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06-28-2019 , 01:51 AM
Now Christie is talking about the possibility of keeping noms the same and getting Kat out because she freaks out so much. She's saying this in front of Holly. I don't know if it was posted in this thread yet but Holly and Kat know each other in real life. She's saying this now after veto and she already told Sam to use it since he was in on the plan. Every HG already knows the plan was to BD Kemi except Kemi. Christie's stock is dropping every time she talks game.
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06-28-2019 , 03:08 AM
Christie and Tommy already dislike Jack lol
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06-28-2019 , 03:45 AM
Holly Christie and Analyse now talking about how they trust Ovi more than Jack. Ovi has some life. Jack was sitting fine and then decided to Devin it up.
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06-28-2019 , 08:37 PM
Jackson loves talking about himself
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06-28-2019 , 09:00 PM
They are really going hard choreographing their moves for passing one another in the hallway before voting
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06-28-2019 , 09:29 PM
Funny moment when they were doing it yesterday and no one choreographed anything with Kemi. I think Nick and Sam realized and then did some small thing.
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