isnt raven one of the couples? with matt

Racen and Matt seem like they want to distance themselves from Cody. Mark and Dom seem to want to stay with the sucking ship. Not sure where Elena will fall, but Cody did **** up an easy thing. Cody pretty much sucks at Big Brother

Yeah I meant Christmas. Raven was the one leading the charge so I wrote her name by accident.

it's a long way to thursday

i mean he also got completely screwed over though

cody and christmas are agreeing that they both want raven to win this season. very odd conversation

I mean it's been a weird week with the quit, but I'm pretty sure Paul would have stayed if he didn't get the temptation. Cody had a bad read of how much control he really had.

He really wouldn't have had the votes to get Paul out. The fact he didn't make sure of that is enough reason to say Cody screwed Cody but yes he's had a rougher road than most HOHs

well, watch paul make it deep now and everyone wonder why no one took a shot at him. then remember cody wanted to do it week 1

from his pov its gotta be pretty ridiculous how fast paul has already gotten in with everyone, and thats already proof that backs up why he was such a big threat that needed to be dealt with

of course the entire philosophy behind his HOH has been backwards from the start. you want to make people feel safe and comfortable with you in power, so that means you want to be about as transparent as possible. not the opposite. you dont want to keep people guessing as to what youre going to do because then you're unpredictable and people will never want you in power or in the game at all. so ya its obvious he has the wrong mindset about BB, i also heard him say he will never campaign in this game. and he thinks there something wrong about 'scheming.' so he doesnt get the game. but i still respect him for wanting to take the shot at paul

All true, but he went about it all wrong.

They did Paul a favor by making the Immunity a possible secret.

But now that it's out, the target is squarely on his back once he's vulnerable.

does anyone know how this curse thing works?

Whistelenut just confirmed Paul was the initial renom

No one knows I assume we'll find out Wed. I don't think the person (Ramses apparently) can exactly say what it is. Paul hinted to Jess he knows what it is and basically whoever has it would be an easy target that week so maybe it's something like they can't compete in HOH or veto or something like that

Elena is so hot. But she thinks she's funnier than dave chapelle. Ramses did such a great job playing her ego.

Did anyone see when she's like "Im giving them such great content."

Lmao we find out right after I said that. Ramses gets to choose which week of 3 weeks he goes on the block.

What a stupid twist

Whistle nuts throws massive shade on everyone

Whistle Nut reminds me of Jim Carrey in the Dumb and Dumber scene when he wears the cowboy hat waiting at the bar for Mary

Elana is disgusting

He did get screwed over twice. First megan quitting then Paul having the power. I like his instincts of who the threats are as exactly Paul and Christmas are his biggest threats in the game. Especially Paul. But the way he went about it was so wrong. Like all over-confident "leaders" of past Big Brother he decided who the biggest threats were and decided they going home without running it by his team. Without knowing if he would get the votes. Without realizing turning on a guy the rest of your team likes makes them not trust Cody and his decision making.

For what it's worth i think as messy as this hoh has been for him i think he would have gotten what he wanted which is Paul out. Had it not been for Paul's safety Alex side would have voted to keep jillian and his side would have come around to it even though they wouldn't have liked it. Luckily Paul learned not to be over-confident like he was last year. He could have said no to the power of safety thinking he had everyone wrapped around his little fingers which it looked like he did. It's always good to take insurance in case someone goes nuts like Cody.

I hope Cody stays around in the game though. Not rooting for him but he's unpredictable and doesn't bite his tongue so good for tv. And he not as bad as a guy as it seems. He just thinks he's in charge of bb19 so will do what's necessary for him and his team whether they like it or not. And decide who deserves to be there.

Whistle Nut already said yesterday and was working on Alex to keep Paul if he got put up. Elena Matt Raven Xmas Whistle Nut Kevin is 6. He'd need 1 of Jess Mark Alex Ramses Josh or Dominique and I'm pretty certain he'd have both Josh and Dominique. Kind've sure he'd have Mark and possibly Alex.

He'd have a chance to get the votes but not likely. I don't see how you sure any of those votes. I mean Alex loves jillian and would not f her over for Paul. Especially when she knows she has the leader of the other side protecting her. So why f her friend over and f over cody and make her position weaker? So if Alex saves jillian she talks jason into being on board and jason has same sorta deal as alex so why wouldn't he go along? He already was on board when he knew Paul going up. Alex would persuade kevin as well. Cody gets jess to vote his way.

Paul has no votes for sure. Not even christmas as her and others who like Paul more likely to vote with the house decision. It possible Matt/raven/mark/elena/dom flip but that's only 6. That's if they flip which they probably wouldn't. They'd say well Paul is a dangerous player. We don't like what cody did going on his own but we might as well get him out now. Let's take out a strong player while we got the chance. I mean Mark saying we cant go with Paul ever again so that gives you an idea he would have voted him out. Obviously his loyalty to Cody more at the moment. Mark and Paul had great talk yesterday so they may work together again but not what Mark is saying right now.

Christmas has similar status to Paul in the house so if she stays then maybe Paul would have stayed. Though she has better chance than Paul because not only she campaigns but Paul can manipulate the house for her to turn on cody. And Paul's got safety 2 more weeks so with that power people know they need to work with him in some sense at least until then.

This is great for Josh, Ramses, Kevin as both sides looking to pick them up now as opposed to everyone sending them out each week before jury. They are valuable free agents now.

If Paul didn't have immunity, he would have had Matt, raven, mark, elana, xmas, Kevin, Jason, prob josh

And the fact that all of Paul's votes to stay were coming from Codys alliance is pretty much fail