Corey should think before he talks

Tiffany and Day are going to split and be enemies soon enough. Their personalities don't mesh whatsoever. I just have no idea how the cards will fall after they split.

Nicole , Z & Day already saying they can't tell Tiffany anything b/c she freaks out about every little thing

She is so much like vanessa it's not even funny. Long story but Frank snaps at Tiff about a bottle of wine. It was his fault. He later apologized. It wasn't a big deal. Instead of letting it go she goes into the hoh room(first going to the hammock by herself crying) shutting herself off from the rest of the house while they all socialized all around the house. Then Nicole comes up for a bathing suit and asks if she's alright as she was wondering why she's by herself in hoh room at 10pm. So Tiff says "you know already" Nicole "i don't. what's up" Tiff "don't lie to me" and gets in her face staring at her to see if she's lying. Nicole "i'm not lying." Tiff "don't lie to me, i know you're lying, it's ok you can admit it."

It was ok as Nicole didn't get mad at her but it's exactly how Vanessa used to talk to Steve and others in the house when she interrogated them. It's so eery how she does the exact same thing as vanessa.

I agree in this case. If you watch back, they mentioned that Tiffany was the other side's #1 target, when Tiff asked for more info Day snapped back overly hard telling her to calm down. Tiff wasn't freaking out whatsoever. Day & Tiff just DO NOT mesh well.

Tiff & Michele seem to definitely be paired up now. They don't really have chemistry with many other people besides Natalie though. They should be preparing for a fracture with Day and make sure they come out of that in good shape.

Right. Day only cares about herself and her problems. Just selfish and happy that Tiff is the target rather than her. Same with the other women but Day and Nicole especially. Very selfish of her team to not tell her originally that she was other sides main target. They would freak if Tiff kept that from them. Then they turn it on her and make her look paranoid and someone they shouldn't trust. Lol.

Michelle, Paul, Corey, james, Natalie(some combo of these but def. Michelle) seem a better route for her now as other fatal 3(Nicole, Zekiah, Day) and Frank have dropped her to bottom of 8 pack. I mean they can come back to her but not looking as good now. Hopefully Tiff realizes this sooner rather than later or she will be screwed.

Agree on Tiff and Michelle.

Season is so dejavu all over again.

It would be hilarious if Tiff won HOH & backdoored Day on week 2 again. I'm pretty sure she got backdoored last year.

When there is a fracture, it is tough to see a scenario where the vets do not side with Day though. Tiff/Michele's only option would be to move to the other side of the house. They could easily use Natalie to get in with Bridget/Bronte/Natalie, which makes 5. Assuming Paul & Victor are the ones that survive this week, they will be desperate, and easy to pull in for 7.

Paulie, I have no idea what he'd do in this scenario. Things will get real interesting though.

Just watched the episodes and all I have to say is LOL that elimination challenge. So rigged against Glenn. Let's put the short old fat guy with no reach on a tilty platform.

I give him kudos for coming as close as he did to beating that tall (long armed) baseball player guy but LOL fair competition.

I guess they just couldn't have Nicole leave this early. So - why even cast Glenn in the first place?

It wouldn't happen that quick as they are not broken enough where Tiff is a target of Day. Tiff(and everyone she's working with) needs to get people targeting her/them out, Victor especially. But it would be awesome if Tiff backdoors Day later on.

I love the Frank and Day talk as they talk subversive about Tiff while they are the one's who treated her unfairly. I guess that's how it works alot of times in this game. Especially with people like Day(self-absorbed). They know they screwed up with Tiff on some level so better to make her look like the bad guy rather than take the responsibility and make yourself look bad.

Tiff's best people going forward imo would be Paulie, Natalie, Michelle then possibly adding on Corey, Paul. Still work with Day, Frank, Nicole, Zekaih for now but eventually make the big move and turn on Day/Frank and crew. I think Natalie and Paulie would be super loyal soldiers for Tiffany as they are kind sweet people that wouldn't betray her if she lets them in fully.

Yet another stupid twist to ruin the game.

How does Frank possibly lose this season? He is only one with a functioning brain cell on entire cast.

dayvonne is getting way too much airtime

really? i actually like this twist. much better than BoB anyways. and im glad we dont have to waste time with have/have-not comps + people throwing battle of the block comps

Better then BoB is a really low bar.

It's a terrible twist becuase it splits votes so much and increases variance a ton becuase everyone will be on block at some point likely.

Day actually could be in trouble. Zak too but I don't think they'll know she flipped. The newbies are going to feel most betrayed by her. I don't know who would have to be up against her for her to go home but it's possible.

most votes are still gonna be between two people. i would guess 80-90+% of the time at least one person finishes with 0 votes. because obviously people arent voting blind and will realize who its mainly between so the third vote is usually a waste or essentially an abstain

and we've had BoB the past two seasons in a row, so thats the bar. this is much better than that. so i like it

i also think its interesting strategically because people have the option to do it anonymously. i would love that as a player. it also makes the game more complex because you arent automatically safe just because your ally wins HoH (so it discourages throwing comps), and you need to be a better player by making sure you have good relationships with everyone

i dont see how it 'increases variance' any more than any other twist. its 3 people on the block instead of the 4 that we're used to from the past seasons. thats fine and probably much better for tv because 2 out of a large group is really small. this way they are decreasing the amount of floaters/irrelevant people per week.

The problem with the twist as I see it is that it's going to make it nearly impossible for a minority alliance to turn the game around by winning a few HOHs in a row. Now they've got to win the extra competition as well or they'll just get pagong'ed.

Of course this assumes that the competition is always going to be for a 3rd nominee, which may not be the case.

Now Day doesn't like Zak cause she cuddled with Paulie. She should've learned from Vanessa that being aligned with a possible showmance is a good thing.

Day and Nicole act like they're above everyone's immaturity and paranoia. I wonder what will happen if they are put in positions where they're questioned for their mistakes and trustworthiness.

And i love how Day decides Frank more trustworthy than Tiffany. What did Tiffany ever do for this distrust? It may be true now after she slighted Tiffany(but before that Tiffany was totally loyal and still is atm) but i think Frank would cut Day in a heartbeat if it bettered his game. Where i think Tiffany would too but she woulda been more likely to ride the girls alliance until at least top 6 or something. Jmo but i doubt Frank has any sense of loyalty to Day other than she's helping his game right now.

Though i do agree with Day about Zekiah falling for Paulie could cause a problem. In fact it has more than they think already. I mean Zekaih has already thrown shade on vanessa to Paul after the road challenge renom. Paul was talking to Zekiah about Frank and Tiff and Zekiah interjected "out of those 2 i think Tiffany is the one to distrust. She's weird." Imo she's doing this because she's jelaous of the Paulie/Tiff/Zekiah love triangle. Like Austin did to vanessa last year throwing a comp to get Jeff out instead of vanessa's hoh plan because Austin didn't like Jeff flirting with Liz.

Now Nicole is nervous about Frank James and Tiffany and Day is talking her down. But now Day is also nervous about James. These 2 are absurd.

Day: I hope people don't start reading into things when people hang out sometimes they're just hanging out. Lmao that's all she does.

Right. Hypocrites.

Btw does Nicole have a problem comprehending conversations or is she deliberately throwing shade on many of her teammates so the other members always see nicole as the most trustworthy of the group. So she stays one step ahead in each members eyes as the most solid/trustworthy one? So they are less likely to cut Nicole as opposed of any other individual member in the alliance.

I mean she took the James convo so out of context it's unreal. Making it sound like he will have a hard time betraying Natalie and Bronte. She goes up to hoh and tells the team he admitted to being shaky essentially. Where what he really said should have put her at ease that he wouldn't flip. He said it will be hard to watch the pain in their eyes when he betrays nat and bronte, but of course he would never betray their alliance(nicole etc..) and do what needs to be done. But she essentially tells the alliance "i think james is ok for now but he could betray us down the road as he admits he will have a hard time betraying them." I mean Nicole went as far as making it look like there's a chance james could vote paulie out this week. Wtf is she doing?

She does the same thing with Tiff making Tiff sound like an emotional wreck that might blow up the team at anytime. Making sure to continue to plant the seed everyday with the team about Tiff being emotional. Like today she says Tiff got emotional when we put up the awnings and i was really worried. So someone said "what happened did she cry?" Nicole says no but she could tell Tiff was emotional. Lol.

Nicole just isn't very smart or good at the game and in some ways is trying to shape her game after Derrick which is obviously not going to end well for her.

jozea and paul are so hard to watch. hilarious how oblivious they are as to what is going on.

Paul isn't that bad. I mean he doesn't know the game at all but he's very good socially. The other side of the house besides Tiffany doesn't even mention him when they go through their list of next eliminations. He's also aware of things and seems to pick up on things well. He said he only watched season 16 a little and didn't care to watch anymore. If he knew the game better I think he would be a really good player. Surprisingly Natalie has basically figured out the 8 pack besides zak and day which isn't anything special since they're always together but no one else has figured it out.

I don't mind paul as well. I think he's not as cocky and confident as he pretends to be. He knows he's being watched so putting on a show for the viewers. Jesse with jeff said when you have a get up like he has it hints at he doesn't know himself yet. But i get the sense he could be a nice guy when you pull the facade down. I find him to be interesting and funny in some weird way. But i think he's less of a target because there are so many other people putting bullseye's on themselves in front of him. He has done some decent work mending relationships though that he semi-burnt early.

Victor(he reminds me of the dr from nurse jackie in facial look and ego) and jozea i find comical like they are made up characters. Like who can be so in denial about how awesome they both are and how in power in the game they are. I think they're pretending as well. Too bad Jozea getting blindsided as we miss a ton of drama this whole week. But thursday will be a fun watch though.

I love what james is doing this season going under "deep cover"(his words). And his genuine laid back personality is refreshing when surrounded by so many phonies.