When Nicole prepares she can lie decently but otherwise yea its obvious she's lying. It was well known from bb16 so more people should of put her to the test but guessing almost everyone didn't watch bb16.

Nicole did more in the endgame than Steve, but it's true that it was her second game. it's also true that she was up against much worse players. manipulating natalie is like manipulating a poodle. "he called your boobs fake. put him up."

Ive grown to appreciate Steve's game a lot. He really played with no emotion. the houseguests patronized him a lot and he just let it happen, knowing he could earn their votes.

And her gleeful reaction at some of Paul's answers and speech to the jury. I haven't heard this anywhere and it surprises me but I'm not 100 sure that she didn't vote for the wrong person by accident. Maybe I'm crazy but I have a little bit of doubt...like 20 percent maybe. Her comments and reactions all the way in the finale made a Paul vote seem certain.

I'm thinking she wanted Paul to win since she liked him better but thought the only way he'd be in final 2 if he picked James. Once Paul won final HOH and took Nicole she had to choose. I actually think she made the correct move but from a fan watching I prefer watching Paul on my screen.

Me too. Paul's a lock to be back...hopefully next summer. It's gotta be time for another all-star season.

Yup

Paul played harder than Nicole in the aggressive sense. She was much more conservative. She's boring AF from an entertainment point of view overall IMO. So most naturally root for Paul and assume he played way better than her because he was more involved on the surface and more entertaining in general, which also means he assumed more risk mostly just because of his personality. I understand the argument that Nicole played better than Paul. They played opposite different styles.

Nicole winning reminds me of Hayden winning season 10 or whatever. I think they played similarly, pretty airtight, engaged but super conservative. Also boring.

Paul definitely wasn't robbed here though. His F3 decision alone is so bad that he probably didn't deserve to win as a result.

Porsche would win if they ever had snother all stars but it is unlikely there will ever be another allstars.

Maybe Bros vs Hoes allstars

Everyone should anticipate a jury member coming back into the game at this point in the show.

In my last post I was talking from DaVonne's perspective. My perception is that DaVonne gave Paul zero credit for his social game.

Yeah paul's social game of making 2 jurors feel like crap in their final week.

I thought Paul had a great social game. Especially when he called Michelle a see you next Tuesday. Love the game play there.

The funny thing is that he did it strategically at the time, and it worked. He got Michelle out of the room and then James and Nat immediately blundered and revealed that Nat wanted to keep Victor over Corey. Michelle still voted for Paul at f2 even after being called that name.

BBOTT cast has been revealed:

http://bigbrothernetwork.com/big-bro...2016-revealed/

The more I hear about BBOTT the less interest I have in watching it. And only a one week break isn't helping.

I had heard that the OTT casting process was going to be different, but it looks like the same archetypes they always have: nerdy superfan, sassy black woman, goofy middle-aged white guy, and a bunch of 20-somethings that look good in swimsuits.

Some nice looking chicks in that cast for sure. I'll check it out.

Kind of intrigued by Shelby with that husky voice and bad-girl demeanor.

So do I have to pay for this thing or what?

It's on cbs all access. The same as live feeds I think 5.99 a month.

New thread for OTT?

yes