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Old 07-29-2015, 04:59 AM   #2376
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

They should start planting seeds that Vanessa is spending a lot of time together with Steve & Becky. If that grows at all in Clelli's mind they know Becky is close to J-Mac so they may think Vanessa may be trying to bring Becky/Johnny/Steve over to have more loyalty to her than Clelli. Add in Austin/the twins having more loyalty to Vanessa, then Clelli may start getting paranoid thinking they should make a move.

Even if they got paranoid I think they'd come to their senses and realize they'd be ending sixth sense by voting out Becky. But, if Jason was good he could play on that paranoia and convince them to flip. It's a long shot but it is better than going out without a fight.
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Old 07-29-2015, 05:01 AM   #2377
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

If Jason says the one sentence that is Becky said she would target you at the double eviction that could be the key to changing everything.
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Old 07-29-2015, 05:10 AM   #2378
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

It could very well happen. In general Clay is much less paranoid than Shelli is, so if they get Clay doubting things Shelli will be quick to follow.
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Old 07-29-2015, 05:13 AM   #2379
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Shelli is way way way way more paranoid than Clay. Clay is actually one of the least paranoid in the house. I just realized this plan will almost definitely not work. Once Clay and Shelli see Jackie is trying so hard to get Becky out all they have to do is tell her and Becky will be 100% on their side and not gun for them at double eviction.
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Old 07-29-2015, 05:21 AM   #2380
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Becky becoming the new Jeff.
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Old 07-29-2015, 05:21 AM   #2381
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

She might have just got herself evicted by telling Jackie some things about Clay Shelli and Vanessa.
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Old 07-29-2015, 05:29 AM   #2382
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

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She might have just got herself evicted by telling Jackie some things about Clay Shelli and Vanessa.
Yeah that's going to be the key but it needs to be relayed in such a way that it is believable. i.e. Meg tells Clay that Jacky told her that Becky said "..."

If it comes from Jackie or Jason it will be too suspicious. Coming from Meg it just looks like she is throwing Becky and Jackie under the bus so that she isn't a target next week.
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Old 07-29-2015, 05:34 AM   #2383
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That's a good point
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Old 07-29-2015, 05:39 AM   #2384
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

That would actually just confirm that Jason James Jackie and Meg have that 4 person alliance though.
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Old 07-29-2015, 05:44 AM   #2385
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Jackie: I was loyal to Clelli. So were you Meg. And Jason and Jeff too. And they are voting them all out. It makes no sense. I mean Jeff talked **** about them I have too. But I mean come on get over it.
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Old 07-29-2015, 05:44 AM   #2386
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

They keep getting rid of their own people. I don't get it.
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Old 07-29-2015, 05:46 AM   #2387
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That would actually just confirm that Jason James Jackie and Meg have that 4 person alliance though.
Not if it looks like Meg is tattling on Jackie. If it works it will feed Shelli's paranoia and she'll convince Clay that they need to find a way to keep Jason. At the same time Jason needs to be making whatever desperate level 1 pleas and promises he can to Clelli.
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Old 07-29-2015, 05:49 AM   #2388
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At least Meg realized that if they do flip Clay and Shelli Vanessa has to be in on it with them or Clay and Shelli wouldn't do it.
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Old 07-29-2015, 05:49 AM   #2389
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Not if it looks like Meg is tattling on Jackie. If it works it will feed Shelli's paranoia and she'll convince Clay that they need to find a way to keep Jason. At the same time Jason needs to be making whatever desperate level 1 pleas and promises he can to Clelli.
But they are going to know Jackie is the 5th vote.
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Old 07-29-2015, 06:04 AM   #2390
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Now Jackie Meg and James are scared that if they try to flip and miss they will be in a bad spot LOL
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Old 07-29-2015, 07:16 AM   #2391
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Meg's having the convo with Clay. Clay is deflecting it but throwing Vanessa under the bus. Shelli would see right through Meg but I don't think Clay does but as of now he is not budging. Meg bringing up Dark Moon.
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Old 07-29-2015, 07:16 AM   #2392
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Steve walked in on the tail end thank god so Vanessa will have to hear about this.
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Old 07-29-2015, 07:21 AM   #2393
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Meg has no idea that Jason going is the best thing for her game.
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Old 07-29-2015, 07:25 AM   #2394
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Meg has done a better job. Saying Jason thinks its Liz and Austin and not Vanessa and the 5 of them can be together.
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Old 07-29-2015, 07:28 AM   #2395
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Clay to Meg: We keep getting screwed cause the other side keeps winning HOH.

2 minutes earlier Clay talking about how Vanessa and obviously Shelli are the 2 people he trusts.
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Old 07-29-2015, 07:49 AM   #2396
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If Shelli and Clay buy this LOL
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Old 07-29-2015, 08:07 AM   #2397
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

They are not buying it at all. Meg went outside basically telling Jason he is staying.
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Old 07-29-2015, 08:08 AM   #2398
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

I guess they are kinda buying it but they are saying Jackie is stronger if Jason stays and that's the main reason they are sticking with getting him out.
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Old 07-29-2015, 08:34 AM   #2399
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Jackie is the worst player of the year. Worse than Audrey worse than Jeff worse than Meg.
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Old 07-29-2015, 02:30 PM   #2400
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

What I'd like to see is Jason/Meg/James/Jackie going to Vanessa/Clay/Shelli and cutting a deal that if they save Jason, none of them will put any of the 3 of them up if they win HOH. It's a longshot but it might work.
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