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Old 07-28-2015, 09:56 PM   #2351
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

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I thought the crying/being upset about putting up Audrey seemed forced so America wouldn't hate her for sending home the transgender girl. She really wanted to make it seem like it really hurt her to do it, I just didn't see that level of confliction from her on the feeds.
That and also this week. Clay went to talk to Jason for damage control. Shelli went immediately after, said the same exact words, and forced tears. Jason even laughed how she got 4 tears out and right after she left back to normal. This is one of the reasons they all are after Clay and Shelli over Vanessa. After this convo Jason thinks for sure Clay and Shelli made Vanessa do their dirty work.
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Old 07-28-2015, 10:26 PM   #2352
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Meg and Jackie think they have the votes to run the house next week. This is so absurd.
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Old 07-28-2015, 10:31 PM   #2353
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Jackie thinks Vanessa wasted her HOH by not going after the twins. Strategic genius at her finest.
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Old 07-29-2015, 12:26 AM   #2354
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Becky is getting herself into trouble. She is telling Jason a lot of stuff including she has a deal with Clelli. He will probably use this to try to keep himself. He won't be able to but now they will know Becky is untrustworthy in weeks to come.
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Old 07-29-2015, 12:42 AM   #2355
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Its not hard to understand Jackie/Jason its called an alliance. When you're not in it people target you.
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Old 07-29-2015, 12:43 AM   #2356
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Jason: We overestimated the other sides intelligence.
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Old 07-29-2015, 12:43 AM   #2357
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Jackie cannot fathom that other people do not have to help her game.
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Old 07-29-2015, 01:05 AM   #2358
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

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Its not hard to understand Jackie/Jason its called an alliance. When you're not in it people target you.
To be fair, they had an alliance and if Austin had not pleaded his case so well things would have gone according to their plan.
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Old 07-29-2015, 01:09 AM   #2359
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Shelli is the fakest person. I can see right through her but a lot of people buy into it. The only reason she has a heart is so she isn't hated by America. She wants to be Jeff and Jordan but she is not even close.
This has been my impression as well (Shelli's fakeness). However, Shelli and Clay are so good looking, I suspect they'd have to be actively rotten for my mother in law to not favor them. Also, she tends to like the people who cry and act conflicted about the vote offs better than ones who spout logic and are calculated about what they are doing. Different strokes for different folks.

I think my mother in law tends to be more in line with America in general than I do. She really liked Donny. Also, pretty sure she thought Derrick was less maniacal than he actually was. I think he did a better job of playing his housemates while also playing to America than most players of his caliber.
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Old 07-29-2015, 01:16 AM   #2360
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

If you replayed this week sure Austin would of went home most of the time but the minute dark moon was formed I knew it was a joke. Jackie was talking last night like we were suppose to get down to 8. If she's dumb enough to ever think that was going to happen she's in a ton of trouble. The only reason dark moon was formed was to save themselves and direct the target on who they wanted out.
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Old 07-29-2015, 01:41 AM   #2361
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Fair enough, who knows if the alliance would have lasted more than one week. I'm just saying that the other side really did run bad to have 1. James failing to throw the comp, 2. Austin making such a good case for himself, and 3. Vanessa finding her "reason". If it wasn't for that trifecta they'd be in a very different spot and if they win HOH the next week the other side would not have been that bad off.
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Old 07-29-2015, 01:52 AM   #2362
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It's kinda crazy how much the week changes if James doesn't correct Liz spelling or if they don't read to much into peoples faces when Clay wins POV.
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Old 07-29-2015, 01:58 AM   #2363
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

There's also the chance that different people are picked for POV and someone from the 6th sense wins and they come to the same conclusion and James goes home. Austin Clay Shelli Vanessa Steve would vote.
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Old 07-29-2015, 02:38 AM   #2364
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Example of Shelli being fake nice. Vanessa and Shelli were having a casual convo about Steve. Vanessa said Steve is happy he is in the group etc. Then she says he is happy about his beard. Now Shelli says to Steve hey Steve I just realized you had that beard. It's so amazing.
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Old 07-29-2015, 03:58 AM   #2365
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Example of Shelli being fake nice. Vanessa and Shelli were having a casual convo about Steve. Vanessa said Steve is happy he is in the group etc. Then she says he is happy about his beard. Now Shelli says to Steve hey Steve I just realized you had that beard. It's so amazing.
That is so awesome.

Shelli and Clay need to be careful going forward. They need to recognise that the twins, Austin, and Steve are all closer to Vanessa whilst they are now huge targets.
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Old 07-29-2015, 04:08 AM   #2366
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They always have the fact that Vanessa wanted to get Austin out this week to try to break that up down the line. I don't know if it will work but Liz seems to have it in the back of her mind more than Austin does. Clelli are also going to start planting seeds that the biggest power couple in the house is really Becky and Johnny Mac.
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Old 07-29-2015, 04:21 AM   #2367
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

That's going to be a hard sell.
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Old 07-29-2015, 04:23 AM   #2368
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Jason's genius plan is to tell Clelli the competition Thursday is going to be an endurance. Being the elite athlete and non smoker he is he is guaranteed to win HOH. He will keep them safe. This is all after telling the whole house all week that it is impossible to be an endurance. He needs their votes to have 4 and he is hoping for a hinky vote as his 5th.
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Old 07-29-2015, 04:26 AM   #2369
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Jackie's genius plan is to convince Shelli that Clay likes Meg for reasons unknown but will only make Shelli want to murder Jackie.
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Old 07-29-2015, 04:33 AM   #2370
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Jackie just had the CRAZIEST idea ever. Jackie is going to vote for Jason to stay. Jackie is going to create an alliance with Johnny Mac and Steve to vote out Becky. To have a 6 person alliance forever and beyond!
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Old 07-29-2015, 04:38 AM   #2371
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

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Old 07-29-2015, 04:40 AM   #2372
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At least Jason told Jackie no to that but we can try to scare Clelli that Austin and Liz will get them out next week.
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Old 07-29-2015, 04:45 AM   #2373
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Meg's idea is best that Jackie goes to Clelli and tells them the house is after them. This is good best because Clelli are afraid Jackie is after them and also why would Jackie be trying to save Jason over Becky? On the other hand it's bad because it makes it obvious they have the alliance of 4 they thought.
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Old 07-29-2015, 04:48 AM   #2374
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Making a play at flipping Clelli is their best bet. Jason is saying he wants to wait until tomorrow though to go for it. If he wants to wait until tomorrow he better mastermind a plan for others to subtly plant a bunch of seeds and give them time to grow before he goes for it tomorrow. I feel like a good player could pull this one off. I doubt Jason will come up with something though.
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Old 07-29-2015, 04:49 AM   #2375
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It could work because Jason is going to tell them Becky is going after them at double eviction which they already think.
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