WAIT, did Vanessa just tell the whole room that she won't make any long term alliances? There's a few people in the room that knows she's lying through her teeth.

Do I believe her no but when she says this she's really only speaking to half the house b/c other half is working with her.

Vanessa should learn to talk less.

Gonna suck if 2 of same side win HOH Thursday.

They are all trying to make it look like they aren't still in the alliance. What do you want her to say?

Yea what do you want Steve to do out his deal with Vanessa? If people feel they are good they will go along with it.

Wouldn't someone like Steve have some info on Vanessa that what Audrey claims might be true?

Steve pretty much knows about the alliance because Vanessa told him they were going to add him but Shelli and Clay declined.

The meeting is a waste of time because everyone is blowing smoke up everyone's ass. Only way we know what they're thinking is from the DR sessions on Wed.

Would be cool if Steve goes to the other side of the house and confirms what Audrey says is true. Of course he's not going to do that even though he knows there's a huge alliance that doesn't include him.

I feel like it's time to have another Big Brother POG game.

Apparently no one allowed in diary room and Audrey has been in there forever. They think she's talking to a psychiatrist and being talked out of leaving.

So what does liz and Julia do when they're outside the house? Hotel with no tv?

Feeds are really weird. 2 cams on bathroom with no one in it and other 2 on sleeping Johnny.

Yes

So I just saw the Sunday episode. Poor little Austin's going to have his precious heart crushed when he finds out that Liz has been whoring herself and using him to get further in the game. Ouch.

So okay, Vanessa makes a final 2 deal with Audrey (Vanessa's idea) then during the meeting with Shelli, Audrey brought this up and swore on her life that this was true, Vanessa blows up going ballistic on Audrey calling her a liar and everything throwing Audrey utb. Vanessa even started crying to Shelli that she feels manipulated by Audrey because Vanessa is gay (yes she actually did pull that card)

So just now after Audrey comes out of the DR obviously shook and about to go home, Vanessa goes up to Audrey in the Have Not room and ask her if she's ok, acting all innocent and nothing happened. Telling the whole house she's concerned about Audrey. Audrey obviously was pissed and didn't say a word to her.


Veeeeerrry slimy on Vanessa's part. Not a good look for her at all. Lying is one thing but why go up to Audrey afterwards and be fake about it to the person you screwed over when you both know the truth on what happened. Is Vanessa bipolar? wtf?

Yea there both nut jobs but why are u so in love with Audrey? She seems like a pathological liar

She's fun and causes a lot of drama, the same way I loved Devin. Everything Audrey has done has been game related while I find Vanessa extremely slimy while trying to come off as the "good" person. Vanessa's being roasted right now everywhere all over social media and BB sites. Her popularity has taken a nosedive after starting the season strong. Audrey's friends and family right now are furious at Vanessa on twitter.

Anyhoo, I'd much rather root for someone like Audrey any day of the week over someone like James/Becky/Meg/Jackie/John/Steve who offer nothing to the show.

Did Vanessa make a final two deal with Audrey, or was it just brought up in speculation when the two discussed possible final 4/3 scenarios?

If it was brought up as a hypothetical, that's the type of thing Audrey would latch onto and change into "we made a final 2 deal". The only final 2 deal I know she has is with Steve, but I dunno if that's even real (I doubt it is)

Check back a few pages where multiple people confirmed that it was Vanessa's idea. Also on the latest RHAP show the live feeder confirmed this as well.

Also anything that Vanessa brings up is never hypothetical. She's really calculated and knows exactly what she is doing. For example using her POV to make deals with Jason and even Jackie so that Jackie won't come after Vanessa because she got out Jeff. Vanessa is doing everything to cover her bases. She'll start a smear campaign to get someone she wants out (Jeff) and she'll use the fact that she's gay as a reason why it's wrong for her to go against a transgender person (Audrey) last week.

The problem with the opposition group to Clay/Shelli/Vanessa is that they can't rally themselves.

Steve should be going to them, but he's just so socially awkward. Feels like in most seasons James would be the leader of this group, but he's simply lazy. Every season the gay guy is the charismatic person jumping room to room gossiping and looking at everything from every angle. James is just flat lazy. This is how you become a bag boy in a grocery store at 25. At some point, Johnny Mac needs to just grab the reigns and organize something amongst the others or else they're simply going to continue to get mowed down. They are catching a huge break if the other side goes Audrey, they need to take advantage of it.

Pretty sure you mean Jason. He just stated to James that if he wins HOH next week he will target Steve.

And there is almost no chance of Johnny Mac doing that. They had to edit out Shelli telling him he is allowed to not throw the BOB to make it look like he did it on his own on the tv show.

You mean Jason, but yeah the outsider group is sitting in the backyard for hours and hardly any game talk has come up. They caught a huge break with Audrey going this week, and have yet to rally together. James and Jason are saying their next target is Steve LOL.