Vanessa just told Liz that Steve thinks Liz likes him LOL. She's going to tell him she has a crush on James or Austin.

I'm pretty sure Steve does think that.

Audrey already trying to set up Steve. "If the votes are off we will know Steve was the one who did it."

Vanessa and Austin just said that Audrey is setting up Steve. They're on to her and thinks she's voting for Jeff.

Then she said Audrey is America's player. Trust me I know.

Vanessa has gone broke like 15 times already. I would be anything on it. Has been right like 1 of 16 times she's said that.

So Vanessa wants Audrey out but pretty much she didn't want to do it.

DarkCheck have you changed your mind after that? Please tell me you did.

Vanessa's biggest downfall is going to be her paranoia. She literally doesn't trust a single person 100% besides maybe Steve. Clay and Shelli are pretty much 100% with her but she doesn't realize it. Austin Liz and Julia also are but Austin looks out for himself and Liz over her which she does realize but I think she thinks Austin would turn on her but I don't think he would.

Audrey was talking bad about Vanessa to Shelli at some point this week and Shelli never told Vanessa. I do think Shelli and Clay are loyal for a few weeks but I don't know how long.

I didn't know that. That changes a lot.

This is what i assumed originally but her talk to people she trusts the last few days(haven't seen all of today's feeds yet) has been she's starting to believe her and wants to rebuild her reputation. She changes her mind like she's got a twin. One loves Audrey the other one knows she's untrustworthy and wants her out. So when do they reveal Vanessa's twin? Just kidding.

I think Clay and Shelli will be loyal to Vanessa unless they find out Vanessa wasn't loyal to them. Shelli probably didn't tell Vanessa because she takes what Audrey says with a grain of salt so no point in freaking out Vanessa telling her. Plus Shelli likes Audrey so doesn't want to tell Vanessa where Vanessa wants to target her. She will keep it in the back of her mind though if anything sketchy-like happens with Vanessa. Audrey planting seeds like Jeff.

I agree with this. I'm pretty sure Shelli is 100% loyal to Vanessa even if she didn't tell her the Audrey thing.

Agreed on her paranoia. Steve is not an exception. She grills Steve constantly to try and catch him in a lie/test him. Yesterday she asked him a game question that wasn't even that vital and after he answered she said "you swear?" He asked her one time few days ago do you now trust me and she said 95 percent. But i bet it's more like 70 percent and drops to 0 to 100 depending on the day and mood with her.

Changed my mind on what? That Audrey is America's player or saboteur? I haven't got there in feeds today but if just because Vanessa said AP and wants her out means she isn't? I don't see how that changes anything as she could be and production doesn't tell Vanessa. All i know is if Audrey is 100 percent a regular player she should marry Devin and live happily ever after on Mars.

I saw that and I feel like she is using the trying to catch him in a lie as an "intimidation method." Like I will catch you if you lie to me so don't make other alliances or something like that.

Vanessa really isn't that smart. She thinks the HOH comp is going to have to do with the Gronk parties. Does everyone not realize that each HOH is a takeover and themed based on the new weeks takeover? After me saying this I'm sure she'll be right and I'll look dumb.

John is hands down the most annoying house guest ever. WHY DOES HE YELL EVERYTHING!

He is definitive proof any moron can be a dentist.

I can't stand him at all. I'll put john just below jocosta as the most annoying houseguest of all time.

John amazing both of you crazy.

Shelli tells Clay and Vanessa that she thinks that she is being persuaded to keep Jeff (by the DR)

Vanessa tells Clay/Shelli that Audrey was trying to make her paranoid about work with them. Shelli says she did that about Vanessa too

DUN DUN DAAAA!!!!!(playing drama music). I'm not surprised as it would be great for ratings. Jeff going for revenge on Vanessa plus Austin and jeff fighting over Liz.

Liz is just a hot girl that likes to tease the guys for attention(and game protection) but doesn't really want to do anything with any of them. Maybe Jeff but i think that is the same as well. She is easy to fall for with her looks and flirty ways. Austin would have a better chance with Julia as a real relationship as she seems more mature of the two twins.

John is awesome. Maybe he is just a love or hate kind of guy.

Johnny Mac is the greatest

Jackie told Jeff that Vanessa thinks Audrey America player and now Jeff's upset. Now Austin wants to replace Audrey with James wtf is going on?