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Old 07-14-2015, 01:15 PM   #1051
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

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I officially have no idea what is going on with anyone. Pretty sure Jackie is going to win this season.
I just thought of something. Maybe Vanessa is doing what Austin did to Clay earlier in the game testing him. Feeding a story to her to see if it gets back to Shelli. Like Vanessa told Shelli(that wasn't on the feeds as i don't remember it) i'm gonna tell Audrey i don't want to take you 2 to final 3. If it gets back to you then we know we can't trust her. Or at least Vanessa can't trust her. And maybe Shelli gonna do it to Audrey telling Vanessa let me know if this gets back to you then me and Clay know we can't trust her.
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:19 PM   #1052
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Either people continue to buy what Audrey is saying or they will compare notes and be in trouble again.
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:30 PM   #1053
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

I don't think Austin wants to let Becky or John in on the twins, he's just trying to do it to appease Liz. Liz has been freaking out and is horrible for his game, while Julia has been playing a great game.
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Old 07-14-2015, 10:06 PM   #1054
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So Austin pissed b/c he caught Jeff and Liz talking and now getting James worried for no reason.
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Old 07-14-2015, 11:18 PM   #1055
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Wouldn't be surprised if Clay/Shelli jump ship soon b/c Vanessa/Austin are insane.
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Old 07-14-2015, 11:30 PM   #1056
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

I agree about them jumping ship on Austin but I feel like Vanessa is setting it up so all of the crazy things she is doing could be pinned or Audrey or Austin. But I'm so confused I have no idea.
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Old 07-15-2015, 02:22 AM   #1057
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Every single time someone gets in a really good position they blow up their own game. At this point I think Johnny Mac Steve Becky Vanessa Shelli or a twin are the only ones with like a greater than 2% chance to win. It's big brother though so those percentages can change daily.
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Old 07-15-2015, 02:36 AM   #1058
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

I actually think Clay is fine but he's in an obv pair so it will cost him.

John is playing low key really well but so far I haven't really seen evidence he will turn it on later. Its more of a hope.

Becky wasn't some huge fan coming in so she doesn't know a ton but if she can learn quick enough anything possible.
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Old 07-15-2015, 02:44 AM   #1059
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Every single time someone gets in a really good position they blow up their own game. At this point I think Johnny Mac Steve Becky Vanessa Shelli or a twin are the only ones with like a greater than 2% chance to win. It's big brother though so those percentages can change daily.
The orchestrated fight team Vanessa did reminded me of A Few Good Men. Vanessa like Tom Cruise: "did you order the code red?" Jeff as jack nicholson: "you're damn right i did!". GOTCHA!!! Please take the witness into custody/put him on the block.
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Old 07-15-2015, 02:44 AM   #1060
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I actually think Clay is fine but he's in an obv pair so it will cost him.

John is playing low key really well but so far I haven't really seen evidence he will turn it on later. Its more of a hope.

Becky wasn't some huge fan coming in so she doesn't know a ton but if she can learn quick enough anything possible.
Yeah I should have had Clay in there. I think he goes before Shelli but he has just as good a shot as any of the people I mentioned. I don't see any of the love for John and on another season I think he would be terrible but since he's one of like 3 people who haven't lied all over the place and made too many promises I think he will go far. Same for Becky.

I don't understand many things Vanessa is doing. One thing in particular is she is telling everyone to tell James if they vote for him will he not nominate them next week. It's getting to the point where if everyone she told does that he would have almost no one left to nominate but her.
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Old 07-15-2015, 03:14 AM   #1061
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

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Every single time someone gets in a really good position they blow up their own game. At this point I think Johnny Mac Steve Becky Vanessa Shelli or a twin are the only ones with like a greater than 2% chance to win. It's big brother though so those percentages can change daily.
I wouldn't count out Meg. Likeable and smart and I think she's trying to work her way into the Vanessa et al alliance just in case they emerge with the power. She's my dark horse.
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Old 07-15-2015, 03:57 AM   #1062
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IMO Meg has the best shot of anyone on that side of the house. Vanessa is doing Audrey things. Pretty sure she told Liz to make a move on Austin and now she's telling everyone the showmance is getting too real.
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Old 07-15-2015, 04:38 AM   #1063
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Jeff: Don't trust Austin. He is not as trustworthy as I thought. He would send me out over James who has stated he want Austin out.

Jackie: So have you though.

Jeff: Yeah but
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Old 07-15-2015, 04:39 AM   #1064
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IMO Meg has the best shot of anyone on that side of the house. Vanessa is doing Audrey things. Pretty sure she told Liz to make a move on Austin and now she's telling everyone the showmance is getting too real.
Best shot on that side of the house purely because she's the least threat to win competitions so they will get others out before her. She's not very athletic and they said she had some kind of surgery on her foot or ankle 2 months prior to coming into the house. She's like Victoria but more intelligent.

Yeah Vanessa keeps pushing the showmance on them then complaining about it. I think she wants it to happen to put a shield on her so they're bigger targets. That's what Steve said, that it's good for us, and Vanessa said smart young man. But then they both complained about it again after that. The dumb part is it doesn't matter if they showmance as everyone knows they have each others backs. Vanessa can be so smart sometimes but then other times very odd behavior.

Jeff is awesome lol. He's sitting on the hammock w/Jackie speaking about people in the house not be loyal and how it offends him. That you have to be true to your alliance. Dude... Really?

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Old 07-15-2015, 04:44 AM   #1065
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Jeff actually just figured out Vanessa's whole plan but said she wasn't smart enough to do it on her own so Audrey must have came up with it. He doesn't know all of the details though but figured out the gist.
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Old 07-15-2015, 04:45 AM   #1066
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Best shot on that side of the house purely because she's the least threat to win competitions so they will get others out before her. She's not very athletic and they said she had some kind of surgery on her foot or ankle 2 months prior to coming into the house. She's like Victoria but more intelligent.

Yeah Vanessa keeps pushing the showmance on them then complaining about it. I think she wants it to happen to put a shield on her so they're bigger targets. That's what Steve said, that it's good for us, and Vanessa said smart young man. But then they both complained about it again after that. The dumb part is it doesn't matter if they showmance as everyone knows they have each others backs.

Jeff is awesome lol. He's sitting on the hammock w/Jackie speaking about people in the house not be loyal and how it offends him. That you have to be true to your alliance. Dude... Really?
How is she like Victoria? Just because she isn't athletic?
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Old 07-15-2015, 04:49 AM   #1067
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

This convo really is the best yet.

Not exact quote but basically this

Jeff: Shelli isn't going to keep me because I said I wanted her out.
Jackie: Shelli is just so insecure about the littlest things.
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Old 07-15-2015, 05:01 AM   #1068
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How is she like Victoria? Just because she isn't athletic?
Because she will float deep(well at least to top 10 maybe further) in this game purely because she's a weak player doing nothing.
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Old 07-15-2015, 05:11 AM   #1069
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

It's been 3 weeks. How is that different than Johnny Mac Steve Becky or Jackie? Meg isn't an idiot or anything. She at least knows she's playing a game and has some thoughts and strategies and alliances. If someone had to be Victoria it would be Jackie in my mind. Floating is a pretty good strategy if done well but Meg isn't even technically floating since she has an alliance.
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Old 07-15-2015, 05:11 AM   #1070
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It's really funny listening to Jeff say who he wants out and bad mouth people then say how he needs their vote and there's no reason for these people to vote him out in the very next sentence.
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Old 07-15-2015, 05:57 AM   #1071
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It's been 3 weeks. How is that different than Johnny Mac Steve Becky or Jackie? Meg isn't an idiot or anything. She at least knows she's playing a game and has some thoughts and strategies and alliances. If someone had to be Victoria it would be Jackie in my mind. Floating is a pretty good strategy if done well but Meg isn't even technically floating since she has an alliance.
She aligned but just follows Jeff's orders like a floater/follower. But she will become a floater soon as her allaince is weakening and she's the smallest threat. I think she's intelligent but she's seems like the type who plays scared and hopes people carry her if she cries and flirts. Vanessa said it pretty well when she said "Meg is such a f'in actress!" because of her crying wanting people to feel sorry for her. She's fake. Not that she's a horrible person but it's annoying. She's probably better than Victoria just meant she's not really doing anything/not a big threat who could go deep as a result.

Jackie i suspect can do well in some type of athletic comps. And she's not a sweet/genuine girl that noone wants to kick out because she's so liked like Victoria. She's fake and talks crap behind people's back. So she's less likely to float deep. The way she's similar is the floating/follower/doesn't know what she's doing.

Becky would be like a victoria if it wasn't for the fact that she can be a comp beast from the way they talk about her in the house. But she's lost strategy-wise like Victoria.

Johnny has floated(imo more as a strategy where the other girls it's because they don't know what to do) but in a pro way. I suspect we will see he has some game. Already won a couple pov's and later on he will prolly start talking more game and trying to get a group together.

Steve has floated but he knows how to play the game and now we see him talking strategy since he aligned with Vanessa. He has already won a comp and i suspect will be great at memory comps.

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Old 07-15-2015, 10:08 AM   #1072
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

This is how I'd rank the floaters in terms of who is the biggest floater.

1. Becky
2. Steve
3. John
4. Jackie

Jackie only #4 because she seems to have somewhat of an alliance. In terms of worthlessness Jackie would top the list, she does absolutely nothing in the house.
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Old 07-15-2015, 10:58 AM   #1073
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

I like on the tv edit Steve says, "Jason, I forgot to give you a hug."

Lol I kept rewinding that part. Is Steve a real person?
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Old 07-15-2015, 06:05 PM   #1074
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Vanessa s getting mad that Liz won't hook up with Austin. She's trying to force her to without letting her know she's telling her to.
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Old 07-15-2015, 06:13 PM   #1075
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Now Steve has crush. Liz messing with people. Vanessa def pushing things.
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